Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: Deontay Wilder Would Knock Joshua Out in 3 Rounds!

[Sid-Knee]

Aren't their reports emerging that Ortiz is WAY older than the age he disclosed for his licence?

If so, this further erodes Wilder's 'achievement' and marries with his pattern of matchmaking.

Yes, a family member on Twitter said he was 49. I believe it as well because he's as slow as an old man and has no stamina either.

[markther]

Don't smiles too much and go check out the bums your wilder fought.
Over 80% of them are either unranked or ranked over 100+.
You don't even know the profile of the guy you are supporting...
Ortiz is the only serious opponent hez had.
Stiverne is a total garbage. I can KO if I have a 6 weeks training.

Your dumb ******ed ass can’t KO a handicapped child. And your response shows your a fraud and don’t follow boxing or no s..t about it. Here are the facts, listen and learn “Undisputed Dummy!”

Joshua wins the title in 2016 from a guy, Charles Martin, that no one had globally ranked as a top ten heavyweight. I’m talking about boxing experts not political ****** rankings. Martin won the title after Tyson Fury vacated the IBF belt in hopes of a rematch with Wladimir that never happened. Martin won the title against a guy named Glazkov that “retired” in the 3rd round due to a leg injury. So Joshua fights this bum Martin and KO’s him in the 2nd round to win the IBF belt. Basically a damn club fighter.

When Joshua fought Whyte in 2015.....Whyte wasn’t nationally recognized by boxing experts as a top ten heavyweight nor was Breazeale when he fought him in 2016. When Joshua fought Wladimir, it was after he lost to Fury and after a very long layoff. After he had aged already. He wasn’t even ranked at the time in the top ten by boxing experts due to his long layoff and inactivity.

The only (2) fighters nationally recognized by boxing experts in the top 10 when Joshua fought them was Takam, ranked 10 at the end of 2017 and Parker, ranked 3rd at the end of 2017. Neither of them held a belt at the time.

When Wilder fought Stiverne.....Stiverne was ranked 3rd by boxing experts coming off (2) straight wins against Arreola in the Heavyweight division and held the WBC belt. When Stiverne fought Arreola....Arreola was ranked in the top ten by boxing experts after only having (2) losses in his career, one to Vitali in 2009 & Adamek in 2010.

When Wilder fought Ortiz....Ortiz was ranked 4th by boxing experts at the end of 2017.

Now, I will give Joshua big props for fighting Povetkin whose only lost was a 12 round unanimous decision to Wladimir back in 2013. Povetkin has been in the top ten by boxing experts since 2015-ranked 2nd....2016-ranked 3rd....2017-ranked 5th, and currently ranked 3rd. He is probably the most ducked fighter outside of Ortiz who Wilder fought in the division. There has been only (2) other fighters ranked in the top ten by boxing experts since 2015 besides Povetkin, Wilder & Pulev. Joshua wasn’t ranked in the top ten by anyone in 2015 because he was fighting a bunch of stiffs over in London-LOL!!! Again, when he fought Whyte, he wasn’t ranked yet.

If I am Wilder; I am rejecting the disrespectful offer to fight Joshua now and fighting the winner of Whyte vs Parker. Win and then fight Pulev or Povetkin. Now it’s a 50-50 negotiation in 2019. I would make those British dummies wait for me!!!

[Noelanthony]

Ortiz is on to something. This is why Joshua and Hearn are shamelessly ducking Wilder.

Ortiz is on something , not on to something

[Noelanthony]

Your dumb ******ed ass can’t KO a handicapped child. And your response shows your a fraud and don’t follow boxing or no s..t about it. Here are the facts, listen and learn “Undisputed Dummy!”

Joshua wins the title in 2016 from a guy, Charles Martin, that no one had globally ranked as a top ten heavyweight. I’m talking about boxing experts not political ****** rankings. Martin won the title after Tyson Fury vacated the IBF belt in hopes of a rematch with Wladimir that never happened. Martin won the title against a guy named Glazkov that “retired” in the 3rd round due to a leg injury. So Joshua fights this bum Martin and KO’s him in the 2nd round to win the IBF belt. Basically a damn club fighter.

When Joshua fought Whyte in 2015.....Whyte wasn’t nationally recognized by boxing experts as a top ten heavyweight nor was Breazeale when he fought him in 2016. When Joshua fought Wladimir, it was after he lost to Fury and after a very long layoff. After he had aged already. He wasn’t even ranked at the time in the top ten by boxing experts due to his long layoff and inactivity.

The only (2) fighters nationally recognized by boxing experts in the top 10 when Joshua fought them was Takam, ranked 10 at the end of 2017 and Parker, ranked 3rd at the end of 2017. Neither of them held a belt at the time.

When Wilder fought Stiverne.....Stiverne was ranked 3rd by boxing experts coming off (2) straight wins against Arreola in the Heavyweight division and held the WBC belt. When Stiverne fought Arreola....Arreola was ranked in the top ten by boxing experts after only having (2) losses in his career, one to Vitali in 2009 & Adamek in 2010.

When Wilder fought Ortiz....Ortiz was ranked 4th by boxing experts at the end of 2017.

Now, I will give Joshua big props for fighting Povetkin whose only lost was a 12 round unanimous decision to Wladimir back in 2013. Povetkin has been in the top ten by boxing experts since 2015-ranked 2nd....2016-ranked 3rd....2017-ranked 5th, and currently ranked 3rd. He is probably the most ducked fighter outside of Ortiz who Wilder fought in the division. There has been only (2) other fighters ranked in the top ten by boxing experts since 2015 besides Povetkin, Wilder & Pulev. Joshua wasn’t ranked in the top ten by anyone in 2015 because he was fighting a bunch of stiffs over in London-LOL!!! Again, when he fought Whyte, he wasn’t ranked yet.

If I am Wilder; I am rejecting the disrespectful offer to fight Joshua now and fighting the winner of Whyte vs Parker. Win and then fight Pulev or Povetkin. Now it’s a 50-50 negotiation in 2019. I would make those British dummies wait for me!!!

There was some fact in your post but way too much emotional ranting.

Joshua as you eloquently stated was not even ranked in 2015 yet within 3 years he has put himself in a position to offer the WBC prestigious belt holder 15 million and he accepts.

All this ranking marlarkey is not worth its salt. When Deontay fought Stiverne for the 2nd time he was his mandatory even though he hadn’t fought in nearly 2 years. In any case allthat is irrelevant Deontay had his major testin Ortiz who I rate and he passed so his resume I will not question. As for him holding out for 50/50 how? Forget the popularity but Joshua bring 3 belts as opposed to Wilder’s one

Spence was due to fight Thurman. Guess who would have been paid more for having 2 belts. Even though arguably Spence is more likely to win.

The flat fee I do agree is disrespectful but the 2 camps don’t like each other so it’s not about making each other happy.wilder has spoken about this fight for a year now so here it is and for once the Americans can see the ball is in Wilder’s court

Swallow your pride Knock Joshua out for 15 million, it’s a derisory figure yet 5 times more than you have ever earned.knock him out in front of his fans and from that day forth he is set for life. It is worth the gamble. Use the insult flat fee as motivation. Instead you want to praise him and advice him to take a different course. I look forward to watching Wilder vs Fat belly Miller in 2019 on DAZN

[Just looking]

Not only does Wilder knocks Joshua out as he would be able to win on points anywhere out of the UK
P.s.: Hearn's fanboys are again making their own thread inside the thread

[asotgod123]

You're dreaming if you think 2 million people in the UK are going to buy the PPV. Break it down to me in how you came up with this complete nonsense?

No one gets paid on the basis of how many title defences you have. To assume you do only shows how removed from reality you really are.

You do know that SKY will take half the money don't you? The same applies for the US PPV.

Reading your drivel tells me you are by far one of the worst posters on this site. To prove as idiotic as you are, takes some real doing. Well done, give yourself a round of applause. Haha.

You sure are very ****** - that much is clear from your post. AJ-Wlad sold 1.5 million per Eddie. Why then can't Wilder-AJ sell almost 2 million? Won't waste my time on uselessness like you. Get a life, idiot!

[Laligalaliga]

Your dumb ******ed ass can’t KO a handicapped child. And your response shows your a fraud and don’t follow boxing or no s..t about it. Here are the facts, listen and learn “Undisputed Dummy!”

Joshua wins the title in 2016 from a guy, Charles Martin, that no one had globally ranked as a top ten heavyweight. I’m talking about boxing experts not political ****** rankings. Martin won the title after Tyson Fury vacated the IBF belt in hopes of a rematch with Wladimir that never happened. Martin won the title against a guy named Glazkov that “retired” in the 3rd round due to a leg injury. So Joshua fights this bum Martin and KO’s him in the 2nd round to win the IBF belt. Basically a damn club fighter.

When Joshua fought Whyte in 2015.....Whyte wasn’t nationally recognized by boxing experts as a top ten heavyweight nor was Breazeale when he fought him in 2016. When Joshua fought Wladimir, it was after he lost to Fury and after a very long layoff. After he had aged already. He wasn’t even ranked at the time in the top ten by boxing experts due to his long layoff and inactivity.

The only (2) fighters nationally recognized by boxing experts in the top 10 when Joshua fought them was Takam, ranked 10 at the end of 2017 and Parker, ranked 3rd at the end of 2017. Neither of them held a belt at the time.

When Wilder fought Stiverne.....Stiverne was ranked 3rd by boxing experts coming off (2) straight wins against Arreola in the Heavyweight division and held the WBC belt. When Stiverne fought Arreola....Arreola was ranked in the top ten by boxing experts after only having (2) losses in his career, one to Vitali in 2009 & Adamek in 2010.

When Wilder fought Ortiz....Ortiz was ranked 4th by boxing experts at the end of 2017.

Now, I will give Joshua big props for fighting Povetkin whose only lost was a 12 round unanimous decision to Wladimir back in 2013. Povetkin has been in the top ten by boxing experts since 2015-ranked 2nd....2016-ranked 3rd....2017-ranked 5th, and currently ranked 3rd. He is probably the most ducked fighter outside of Ortiz who Wilder fought in the division. There has been only (2) other fighters ranked in the top ten by boxing experts since 2015 besides Povetkin, Wilder & Pulev. Joshua wasn’t ranked in the top ten by anyone in 2015 because he was fighting a bunch of stiffs over in London-LOL!!! Again, when he fought Whyte, he wasn’t ranked yet.

If I am Wilder; I am rejecting the disrespectful offer to fight Joshua now and fighting the winner of Whyte vs Parker. Win and then fight Pulev or Povetkin. Now it’s a 50-50 negotiation in 2019. I would make those British dummies wait for me!!!

Lolx.... nice try to defend your champ fighting unranked opponents.
It should be a shame that after 40 fights wilder has only one decent name in Ortiz.
He couldn't unify after 3yrs of been champ and 7 defenses.
Team that claim to have 50mil can't pay champs for unification.
You are just a deluded wilder fan.

[markther]

Lolx.... nice try to defend your champ fighting unranked opponents.
It should be a shame that after 40 fights wilder has only one decent name in Ortiz.
He couldn't unify after 3yrs of been champ and 7 defenses.
Team that claim to have 50mil can't pay champs for unification.
You are just a deluded wilder fan.

I’m not a fan of any fighter “undisputed dummy,” I am just a fan of boxing period. Unlike YOU, I can be objective and not be a h0m0 fan boy for any boxer. I just gave you the FACTS and YOU are still disillusional. Maybe your restarted after looking at your second response or illiterate CTFU!!! And your g.y dumb ass probably jerks off to a poster of Joshua every night....GTFOH....LOL!LOL!LOL!
YOUR british dummy probably won’t get past his next fight because he is an overrated BUM. And IF he ever gets in the ring with Wilder, he will get killed, the towel will be thrown in to save him....Glass Jaw Joshua..GTFOH!!!!!..You don’t know sh.t about boxing...Undisputed Dummy!!!!!!!

[champion4ever]

I agree because the man is shook of the mere presence of a Deontay Wilder. I wouldn't be surprised if Joshua lays down for fear of being hit by Deontay Wilder in this bout.

Fears makes you do some crazy things when your opponent is out to knock the hell out you. Don't be surprised if the "Bronze Bomber gets him out of there in less than 45 seconds.

If Wilder comes out fast watch how AJ panics and trembles and won't punch back. Easy knockout victory for Deontay Wilder!

[markther]

There was some fact in your post but way too much emotional ranting.

Joshua as you eloquently stated was not even ranked in 2015 yet within 3 years he has put himself in a position to offer the WBC prestigious belt holder 15 million and he accepts.

All this ranking marlarkey is not worth its salt. When Deontay fought Stiverne for the 2nd time he was his mandatory even though he hadn’t fought in nearly 2 years. In any case allthat is irrelevant Deontay had his major testin Ortiz who I rate and he passed so his resume I will not question. As for him holding out for 50/50 how? Forget the popularity but Joshua bring 3 belts as opposed to Wilder’s one

Spence was due to fight Thurman. Guess who would have been paid more for having 2 belts. Even though arguably Spence is more likely to win.

The flat fee I do agree is disrespectful but the 2 camps don’t like each other so it’s not about making each other happy.wilder has spoken about this fight for a year now so here it is and for once the Americans can see the ball is in Wilder’s court

Swallow your pride Knock Joshua out for 15 million, it’s a derisory figure yet 5 times more than you have ever earned.knock him out in front of his fans and from that day forth he is set for life. It is worth the gamble. Use the insult flat fee as motivation. Instead you want to praise him and advice him to take a different course. I look forward to watching Wilder vs Fat belly Miller in 2019 on DAZN

Another “Undisputed Dummy” on this boxing forum that doesn’t know sh.t about boxing...and I don’t get emotional over the internet, I get emotional when I am deep inside YOUR mother...CTFU!!!!

Not shut up and listen and learn something undisputed dummy! First of all, this British fraud has (4) belts dumb ass, he doesn’t have 3 belts. He holds the IBF he won from that stiff Charles Martin, who got the belt because a fighter retired due to leg injury. The British Dummy also has the IBO & WBA, both belts were vacant and up for grabs against Wladimir, an over the hill fighter who was inactive for a year after losing to that fat comedian Tyson Fury. Wladimir didn’t deserve that title shot and that British Dummy got lucky and picked up (2) belts largely because Slick Fast Eddie greased someone’s palm or conned the WBA & IBO.

Then he wins the WBO belt from Parker, a top ten heavyweight at the time so I will give him credit objectively for that belt. That’s a solid win against a good fighter. The (2) vacant belts against Wladimir when other ranked fighters were more deserving of that title shot at the time such as Polvetkin are bogus. He should have fought Polvetkin, Pulev, and Wilder when he fought Wladimir, instead of ducking ALL of them. So he basically got (2) belts given to him from an almost shot aged fighter, Wladimir, who almost won the belts anyway from that glass jaw British Dummy.

The statement made to me originally was that Wilder didn’t fight any “ranked” fighters other than Ortiz. That statement is false. I didn’t even bring up the rematch against Stiverne. Your dumb ass mentioned that. I said when he fought Stiverne the 1ST time, he was ranked in the top ten coming off (2) wins against Chris Arreola.

Joshua, the British Dummy, only technically has (2) wins also on his resume, against Parker & Takam, both ranked in the top ten at the end of 2017. And how Takam was ranked as the 10th heavyweight, I have no idea. He lost to both Polvetkin & Parker.

When Joshua fought Breazeale and Whyte, they weren’t ranked in the top ten at the time of those fights. They are right now, but not when Joshua fought them. With the Polvetkin fight and IF he wins, he then has a stronger resume because I will throw in the Wladimir win too just because the name looks good on his resume but not because of the type of fighter he was when he fought the British Dummy. Again, he had lost to a fighter in Tyson Fury, he would have beat in his prime.

But you can’t say because Whyte and Breazeale are in the top ten now that he fought (5) top ten fighters like some of the dummies here are stating because he technically didn’t. They weren’t ranked that high when they fought the British Dummy nor was Wladimir.

He fought (2) top ten fighters in his entire career at the times of those fights; Takam & Parker, (3) right now with Polvetkin. Wilder has fought (2), Stiverne & Ortiz. And he will probably fight his 3rd with the winner of Whyte & Parker soon or against Baby Miller who is now ranked in the top ten.

Pay attention; you don’t know sh..t about boxing dumb ass!!!
UNDISPUTED DUMMY!!!!