Comments Thread For: Joshua: Wilder is Definitely Going To Happen - Confident I'll Win!

[Bronx2245]

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Another Wilder Protector posting fake news and fantasy daily on here !

P.S Sheffield England is not europe where Wilder WAS bc he never boarded his plane to go to Russia so you guys can stop pushing that agenda !

Nor didnt want to bc he flew straight back home before any determination had been ruled which was miniscule amounts of what was a legal substance prior to it being banned .

He was on his way to Russia...for peanuts! You're punk azz boy won't go to Vegas...for $50 Million! COWARD!

[miked85]

wilder should just move on

[Phenom]

Povetkin didn't really look like top fighter his last 3 fights which is why they were all over this fight

Border line shot boxer but still can chin check AJ

[5000boxing]

Hes not smart enough to be Thanos hes more like Draxx !

Lol.. in a world of super heroes AJ is aquaman!

[kafkod]

Your “wilder makes 1.5mil” point is irrelevant aj biggest payday will come against wilder and vice versa just like ggg biggest payday will come against canelo and vice versa it’s all about the dance partner to generate the maximum bucks for both guys and please don’t respond with aj can make that in two fights bs

AJ can make $20million plus against anybody. Canelo can't. AJ has 3 of the championship belts in his division. Canelo has no belts in his division and the only way he can get what AJ already has is by fighting GGG.

[kafkod]

He was on his way to Russia...for peanuts! You're punk azz boy won't go to Vegas...for $50 Million! COWARD!

He better hope AJ beats Povetkin or he'll be on his way to Russia for peanuts again - if he really wants to unify his division.

[Scipio2009]

I disagree that it should be 50/50 in the rematch. If Wilder wins then he should get more.

Why is it on Hearn to produce a counter to his own offer? - Surely that is Shirleys job? It's impossible to do a deal if you make an offer and the other side just keeps saying 'no' and not giving you anything to work with?

I don't understand how they can agree to the offer but want clarification on 2 points (date & venue) which they now have but now refuse to sign wanting 50/50? - Is this just posturing to try and get a bit more?

Also I do think offering a flat fee is ridiculous for a fight of this magnitude but I can see why it's been done. It's still around 10 times more than Wilder has ever made.

If I was Wilder I'd take the $20m deal for an easy fight, then AJ... Hopefully get the win and then hold all the cards in the rematch... AJ/Hearn would accept almost any terms if they lost as they would be desperate to get the belts back.

Finally I think that Miller/AJ stunt yesterday was a tactic to get Wilder to sign as he'll be worried that Miller might get a shot before him.

Except it's not 50/50 in a reminder; it's Anthony Joshua getting $50m for a fight that will likely clear $70m-$75m for the fighters, and a fight that would get to that $100m figure only if the fight talk would get into the consciousness of the general public, which it might do.

Joshua gets $50m, Wilder gets $20m, you would've near maxed out on the expected take, and the actual money split would've been near 70/30 on the fight anyway.

Inflation adjustment is whatever, but there have been three fights in the history of the sport that saw the fighters split more than $80m; Mayweather-Alvarez, Mayweather-Pacquiao, and Mayweather-McGregor. Hold that for a moment.

Since Joshua doesn't want to leave the UK just yet, and Joshua's commitments are what they are, it makes no sense for Shelly Finkell to make any offer on a fight that has to be done in the UK, especially if he'd be limited to only doing business with folks in business with Joshua to try and make his money back. Hearn is the only one that can offer in the UK because he knows the limits to whom he can/can't do business with.

Wilder is doing what he's supposed to do; keep the story straight with the folks paying attention to his run, keep fighting his fights, keep building with Showtime/CBS (he's moving to CBS to fight soon, imo), and keep building his own star, with or without Joshua, with the world knowing that he's ducked fighting no one.

If Joshua doesn't fight Wilder, he's going to have to fight Pulev next (unless Hughie Fury takes the fight and pulls off the upset) and battle wallets with the backer trying to stage Pulev in Bulgaria (just as Ryabinsky staged Povetkin in Russia), or lose the IBF belt.

[Scipio2009]

GGG didn’t agree in principle to a flat fee, then backtrack on it.

It’s a normal starting point for negotiations, agreed. But when you’ve been arguing the toss on a $15 million contract for the past few weeks, when the issue wasn’t actually the money, then it’s just being obstructive at this point.

It was $15m to fight next, with a handshake to have the second fight I Las Vegas.

Once that turned to "after I fight Povetkin", and "a rematch, only if Anthony Joshua wants it and with that in writing", and "now only on DAZN, instead of the Showtime/CBS platform that spent the last two years building Joshua in the US and the last 5 years developing Deontay Wilder", agreeing to the fee can be ignored.

So now it's starting at 50/50, no rematch; fight at Wembley in London, Hearn/Joshua can pick whatever broadcaster that they want to carry the fight, satisfy whatever outside commitments that Joshua has, and if Wilder wins, he takes all of the belts and goes about his business the way he wants.

[Scipio2009]

Just a quick question.
Do you believe that Hearn wanted this fight at all to happen this year?

I think Eddie Hearn wanted the fight when he earnestly thought that the Povetkin and Wilder fights were worth the same (and Wilder had no issue with coming to the UK).

Once the $50m was found to be legit, Hearn got spooked and started to spin; the Wilder fight being the bigger fight, he used Wilder to prevent Povetkin's folks from pushing that the fight be in Russia.

Povetkin in September, Wilder in April (Hearn is saying what he wants now, but Wilder gets offered 40% in the end), and then you'll likely see a petition of the IBF to have the rematch delay the IBF mandatory (timing is what it'll be, and injuries and all that, but aiming for the last Saturday of August makes sense).

If Joshua wins the three fights, great; even if he doesn't, you get Joshua his likely three biggest paydays while still having the Fury payday for the UK audience (and the world still interested in seeing him fight).

[Scipio2009]

Wow If only you were actually involved in this fight your decisions would matter lol But you're just fan in a comment section sooo no your opinion doesn't change the outcome of these guys contract discussions

Just making sense of the information that's been made public.

If you want to keep flying blind in fandom, that's on you