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  • Scipio2009
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    #91
    Originally posted by Jubei
    Why do you hate Wilder like that??

    If AJ loses then Wilders career is basically ruined as well, he is only relevant because of Joshua, without AJ the HW division is dead.
    Wilder beats Povetkin and you'd have an American undisputed heavyweight champion, open and willing to travel wherever he can make the biggest fight possible.

    Lol

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    • Scipio2009
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      #92
      Originally posted by kafkod
      AJ can make $20million plus against anybody. Canelo can't. AJ has 3 of the championship belts in his division. Canelo has no belts in his division and the only way he can get what AJ already has is by fighting GGG.
      ... you do know that Alvarez makes $10m+ off of his TV deal in Mexico, right? lol

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        #93
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        Didn't AJ already fight Breazeale? Didn't Wilder already fight Ortiz? Didn't Wilder travel to Europe for Povetkin before Povetkin got popped for PEDs? Wilder is down for whatever! AJ swerved Ortiz, and now he swerved Wilder! COWARD!
        How the fck does Ortiz deciding to fight Wilder instead of waiting for his mandatory shot at AJ translate into AJ swerving Ortiz?

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        • cameltoe
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          #94
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          It was $15m to fight next, with a handshake to have the second fight I Las Vegas.

          Once that turned to "after I fight Povetkin", and "a rematch, only if Anthony Joshua wants it and with that in writing", and "now only on DAZN, instead of the Showtime/CBS platform that spent the last two years building Joshua in the US and the last 5 years developing Deontay Wilder", agreeing to the fee can be ignored.

          So now it's starting at 50/50, no rematch; fight at Wembley in London, Hearn/Joshua can pick whatever broadcaster that they want to carry the fight, satisfy whatever outside commitments that Joshua has, and if Wilder wins, he takes all of the belts and goes about his business the way he wants.
          Come on dude. The whole world knows that isn’t what happened.

          Wilder missed the boat, AJ had to fight his mando or lose the title.

          Wilder had his chance for the September date and didn’t take it. You know who did? Povetkin.

          Have a think at all the fighters Hearn has been able to negotiate with. Even just AJ, he’s managed to strike a deal with the notoriously difficult K2 for Klitschko. He’s managed to secure the Parker fight when Parker’s trainer was being a total tool and demanding 50% of everything. He’s now managed to sort Povetkin almost overnight once he was given no other option.

          Wilder’s team for comparison have never been able to pull together a decent fight, all his potential big fights have fallen through, which is why he’s fought 38 cans in 39 fights.

          It isn’t Eddie that’s making this difficult.

          Wilder had the contract. Wilder and his team didn’t raise their concerns about the contract. Wilder didn’t sign the contract. Wilder got left out in the cold. That’s all there is to it.

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            #95
            Originally posted by kafkod
            AJ can make $20million plus against anybody. Canelo can't. AJ has 3 of the championship belts in his division. Canelo has no belts in his division and the only way he can get what AJ already has is by fighting GGG.
            Canelo can make 15 mil fighting on the biggest stage of world on American ppv with no belts against anybody.... But the point was they need that special dance partner to earn more money and those dance partners are wilder/ggg

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              #96
              Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
              Canelo can make 15 mil fighting on the biggest stage of world on American ppv with no belts against anybody.... But the point was they need that special dance partner to earn more money and those dance partners are wilder/ggg
              Ok Oscar, if you say so.

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                #97
                Originally posted by cameltoe
                Come on dude. The whole world knows that isn’t what happened.

                Wilder missed the boat, AJ had to fight his mando or lose the title.

                Wilder had his chance for the September date and didn’t take it. You know who did? Povetkin.

                Have a think at all the fighters Hearn has been able to negotiate with. Even just AJ, he’s managed to strike a deal with the notoriously difficult K2 for Klitschko. He’s managed to secure the Parker fight when Parker’s trainer was being a total tool and demanding 50% of everything. He’s now managed to sort Povetkin almost overnight once he was given no other option.

                Wilder’s team for comparison have never been able to pull together a decent fight, all his potential big fights have fallen through, which is why he’s fought 38 cans in 39 fights.

                It isn’t Eddie that’s making this difficult.

                Wilder had the contract. Wilder and his team didn’t raise their concerns about the contract. Wilder didn’t sign the contract. Wilder got left out in the cold. That’s all there is to it.
                Do you honestly think that the WBA, with the clear history of how they've handled mandatory defenses over the last 10 years, jumped into the fray, allegedly within days of the biggest heavyweight fight in some time being agreed to, and pulled rank?

                The same organization that invents belts and still owes Fres Oquendo a mandated shot at the title? lol. Believe what you want.

                Wladimir Klitschko got beat by Tyson Fury in one of the most heavyweight fights that I could ever remember seeing, took off a year and a half before fighting Joshua, and still got a 50% share of everything. Talk about shrewd negotiating, lol.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  Do you honestly think that the WBA, with the clear history of how they've handled mandatory defenses over the last 10 years, jumped into the fray, allegedly within days of the biggest heavyweight fight in some time being agreed to, and pulled rank?

                  The same organization that invents belts and still owes Fres Oquendo a mandated shot at the title? lol. Believe what you want.

                  Wladimir Klitschko got beat by Tyson Fury in one of the most heavyweight fights that I could ever remember seeing, took off a year and a half before fighting Joshua, and still got a 50% share of everything. Talk about shrewd negotiating, lol.

                  Rightly so. He got 50% because Joshua knew that he needed Klitschko more than the way Klitschko needed him. He knew that he was the B side in that match. Wilder needs Joshua more but he's deluded thinking that he's the A side. I don't consider Wilder as a serious HW cos his career is stagnant. Since becoming the WBC HW Champion, what has he done?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Do you honestly think that the WBA, with the clear history of how they've handled mandatory defenses over the last 10 years, jumped into the fray, allegedly within days of the biggest heavyweight fight in some time being agreed to, and pulled rank?

                    The same organization that invents belts and still owes Fres Oquendo a mandated shot at the title? lol. Believe what you want.

                    Wladimir Klitschko got beat by Tyson Fury in one of the most heavyweight fights that I could ever remember seeing, took off a year and a half before fighting Joshua, and still got a 50% share of everything. Talk about shrewd negotiating, lol.
                    Ok, you Wilder fans will never be convinced.

                    Let’s look forward to their next fights. AJ against a dangerous, former HW champion, Olympic gold medalist that has only lost once to the best HW fighter in this era...

                    ...And Wilder vs the best quarterback in college football circa 2006.

                    That says it all...

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                    • Scipio2009
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Oshio
                      Rightly so. He got 50% because Joshua knew that he needed Klitschko more than the way Klitschko needed him. He knew that he was the B side in that match. Wilder needs Joshua more but he's deluded thinking that he's the A side. I don't consider Wilder as a serious HW cos his career is stagnant. Since becoming the WBC HW Champion, what has he done?
                      Deontay Wilder is Anthony Joshua's key to breaking the American market, and breaking into the American market is how Joshua has the chance to be a billion dollar fighter.

                      Because, without Wilder, Joshua is going to be on the same $20m a fight for the rest of his run, while Deontay Wilder can grow into the $30m-$40m that can be had in the US of he keeps winning.

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