Is Manny still an elite fighter?

[man down]

Their isn’t any real elite talent at 140 right now.

He shouldn't have to move up to 147 just because of that. He's already giving up a lot with his age.

[Larry the boss]

Why didn’t you vote???

Because I want the public to vote man

[Jewish-Reptile]

He shouldn't have to move up to 147 just because of that. He's already giving up a lot with his age.

I’m cool with that just let’s not pretend he’s elite after beating LM though.

[lparm]

Elite against naturally bigger men like he used to be?

Probably not

Elite against guys his own size or smaller?

Absolutely

[man down]

I’m cool with that just let’s not pretend he’s elite after beating LM though.

Says a lot about boxing doesn't it.

[BoxingIsGreat]

People who are saying Pac is too small for welter, get real. He's pretty big. Did you see him last night? He can fight at 154.

I'd bet you Pac can't make 140 healthy. Don't kid yourselves. We don't need a drained Pac. There's a reason the guy's been fighting at welter for over a decade. Saying he's small, he can do this and that at 135/140, is ******. Get a grip. The guy is a welter, let it be.

Don't encourage the drainage.

[TheBigLug]

no.

Manny was always levels above Lucas when they weren't shot and he still is as faded fighters. That's all it is.

Right now he's a year older than the version that struggled with Horn. even if you thought Manny won, does it matter? if Manny wasn't faded, he would have smashed Horn to pieces. He is almost 40 and he'll look it next tim he fights a top WW.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Says a lot about boxing doesn't it.

Absolutely. I just see the rhetoric here and a lot of fan boys getting wet. I’m done with this subject.

[champion4ever]

No, he isn't because he is at the tail end of his illustrious career. He has too much mileage on him; Twenty three years to be exact. In addition, he is past his prime. He still could fight though but yet still limited due to time.

[Larry the boss]

He needs to retire after this solid win. He will probably lose if he steps up to fight those top guys

Yea this feels like his Jeff Lacy/Tito fight as it was for Roy..Now he feels he is back and some others do as well...This will end badly