What can Arum do to make Bud's welterweight opponents look good?

[Madison Boxing]

nothing, they arent world class opponents which is what i would have thought the p4p number 1 fighter should be fighting. the free ride him and spence are getting whilst avoiding each other is absolutely disgraceful from so called 'boxing fans'. ive never known a p4p fighter be so protected 'oh nah we cant risk spence yet, heaven forbid he might take a risk and lost'

[champion4ever]

It's real simple Bud needs to leave Top Rank. PBC holds all the cards and titles at 147.

[killakali]

All youre doing is proving the fight wouldnt happen.

Haymon could bid 10 million, give Crawford 2.5 and make a side deal to give Thurman the 3.5 he'd want in your own scenario.

Giving Haymon full control of the fight, something Arum and ESPN would never allow. Youre living in a dream world.

the way I said it would only work is to make an agreement. Not a purse bid. Thurman already beat Garcia and Porter. He isn’t in a hurry to fight Spence. So from his point of view he may want a Crawford fight over a Spence fight. He might see it as more winnable and demand it from Haymon.

He already has stated he doesn’t want Porter or Garcia rematches and doesn’t want Spence so what else is there for him?

[N/A]

the way I said it would only work is to
make an agreement. Not a purse bid.

If they're making a voluntary agreement, there's no need to try to unify with a secondary champion (which usually isn't allowed), to then try to become the mandatory, even though the secondary champion isn't guaranteed to be the mandatory, etc etc.

Are you starting to see yet why your plan makes no sense? To go through all of that trouble to try to force a position you're conceding they wouldn't want to force?

[KingHippo]

The free ride him and spence are getting whilst avoiding each other is absolutely disgraceful from so called 'boxing fans'. ive never known a p4p fighter be so protected 'oh nah we cant risk spence yet, heaven forbid he might take a risk and lost'

G-Tards and their logic

We all know the fight is going to happen, Arum holds the cards and we all know he's not making the fight now. That would make absolutely no sense from a business standpoint. Are you new to boxing?

[Madison Boxing]

G-Tards and their logic

We all know the fight is going to happen, Arum holds the cards and we all know he's not making the fight now. That would make absolutely no sense from a business standpoint. Are you new to boxing?

you make out these are two prospects ffs, crawfords in his damn 30s and hes nowhere near a star, hows that gonna change by him beating some top rank nobodies that noones ever heard of. you and others live in fantasy land, its not going to be a big crossover fight now or in 2 years time, they dont have the personalities for it.

[KingHippo]

you make out these are two prospects ffs, crawfords in his damn 30s and hes nowhere near a star, hows that gonna change by him beating some top rank nobodies that noones ever heard of. you and others live in fantasy land, its not going to be a big crossover fight now or in 2 years time, they dont have the personalities for it.

There's absolutely no buzz for this fight at the moment. One of them has to at least get another belt to build some momentum. Making the fight now just makes no sense business wise.

Whether the fight is a crossover or not is irrelevant, the fight is going to be bigger when it'll be for all the belts. Arum did not become the man he is today by throwing money down the toilet and rushing fights.

[Madison Boxing]

There's absolutely no buzz for this fight at the moment. One of them has to at least get another belt to build some momentum. Making the fight now just makes no sense business wise.

Whether the fight is a crossover or not is irrelevant, the fight is going to be bigger when it'll be for all the belts. Arum did not become the man he is today by throwing money down the toilet and rushing fights.

Them winning a belt isnt going to make the slightest bit of difference in terms of casuals tuning in. Hardcore fans dont really give a **** about belts let alone casuals. its absolutely ridicuous that crawfords not desperately going after the fight, hes not got that many prime years left and hes wasting it marinating one fight which might not even do that well. As i said just think you and others are living on another planet if you think its going to be some blockbuster event when they come together, spences next fights rumoured to be the berto/alexander winner and people are saying crawfords might fight the guy who just sc****d past abreu. If they carry on doing what they are doing they sure as **** arent going to be stars, if they wanted to do that they should be looking to beat one another and then go after the next best guy after that.

[KingHippo]

Them winning a belt isnt going to make the slightest bit of difference in terms of casuals tuning in. Hardcore fans dont really give a **** about belts let alone casuals. its absolutely ridicuous that crawfords not desperately going after the fight, hes not got that many prime years left and hes wasting it marinating one fight which might not even do that well. As i said just think you and others are living on another planet if you think its going to be some blockbuster event when they come together, spences next fights rumoured to be the berto/alexander winner and people are saying crawfords might fight the guy who just sc****d past abreu. If they carry on doing what they are doing they sure as **** arent going to be stars, if they wanted to do that they should be looking to beat one another and then go after the next best guy after that.

That's was just a bunch of crap gtfo my face casual you're wasting my time here

[killakali]

If they're making a voluntary agreement, there's no need to try to unify with a secondary champion (which usually isn't allowed), to then try to become the mandatory, even though the secondary champion isn't guaranteed to be the mandatory, etc etc.

Are you starting to see yet why your plan makes no sense? To go through all of that trouble to try to force a position you're conceding they wouldn't want to force?

What I am saying is Keith may ask for this fight since there isn't anything at PBC that interests him. He doesn't want Spence which I really don't blame him and he doesn't want Porter or Garcia rematches so after a tune up who can he fight for more money than vs Crawford?