What can Arum do to make Bud's welterweight opponents look good?

[KingHippo]

Kavaliauskas doesn't have much talent. He showed that yesterday against his first quality opponent.

Just saw the fight and he has greatly deteriorated. His team is ruining him. He used to be so much smarter with his punches and his mechanics used to be beautiful. Don't know what the **** they're doing, but it's not good.

This is the Egidijus I remember. He needs to get with a real trainer asap, they don't know what to do with this type of talent.

[Fists_of_Fury]

He can actually have Bud fight legit top opponents and not just Top Rank bums...

[killakali]

There are so many problems with this, but I will try to help you as long as you aren't rude.

You have to overcome a few things to get to where you want to go and even once you get there, you won't get the result you want. #1 - You have to get the WBO to approve a unification with a secondary champion, which they typically would reject. You could make the argument that for Arum, they'll do it anyway, and that's possible. Which leads to #2, which is the WBA world champion not necessarily being the mandatory. Arum has little to no sway with the WBA while Haymon has a ton. Even if you overcome that.

That leads us to:

75/25 split in Thurman's favor in a purse bid.

Good luck getting Arum to go for that.

Never going to happen. The whole scenario is dream world stuff that will never happen. Arum is content hiding behind the WBO.

It all depends. The WBA would be very interested in a sanctioning fee involving Crawford just like they were for Lomachenko. I wouldn't say Arum hides behind the WBO when he just lifted the WBC 140 pound title with two different fighters and the WBA with Lomachenko and is about to get WBC 175 title as well.

[The Big Dunn]

If pacquiao wins then arum needs to pony up the necessary money to make crawford-pacquiao. That would finally give bud the opportunity to become a legitimate star.

Meanwhile, arum should make benavides-Alvarado followed by benavides-horn. That gives benavides the chance to make a name for himself, and build towards a crawford-benavides showdown. Would be a big fight due to the legitimate animosity between both fighters

This makes sense

[N/A]

It all depends. The WBA would be very interested in a sanctioning fee involving Crawford just like they were for Lomachenko. I wouldn't say Arum hides behind the WBO when he just lifted the WBC 140 pound title with two different fighters and the WBA with Lomachenko and is about to get WBC 175 title as well.

You've completely ignored the fact that it's still 75/25 in Thurman's favor even if Arum manages to jump through all of those hoops and cut through all of that red tape.

Haymon is guaranteed to win the purse bid and then Crawford winds up fighting on Showtime, something ESPN would be absolutely furious about and may not even allow at all.

So why would Arum concoct this crazy plan you suggested when it would end so terribly for him?

[Mammoth]

He can actually have Bud fight legit top opponents and not just Top Rank bums...

How? Haymon has the welterweight division on lock.

[killakali]

You've completely ignored the fact that it's still 75/25 in Thurman's favor even if Arum manages to jump through all of those hoops and cut through all of that red tape.

Haymon is guaranteed to win the purse bid and then Crawford winds up fighting on Showtime, something ESPN would be absolutely furious about and may not even allow at all.

So why would Arum concoct this crazy plan you suggested when it would end so terribly for him?

who says it will go to purse bid? Haymon and arum could work something out or Arum could push a ppv Angle guaranteeing Thurman more than his 2 million dollar purses so he can start getting paid more like crawford.

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who says it will go to purse bid? Haymon and arum could work something out or Arum could push a ppv Angle guaranteeing Thurman more than his 2 million dollar purses so he can start getting paid more like crawford.

If it's 75/25 in Haymon's favor, OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO PURSE BID. He has all the leverage in that scenario.

You have no idea what Thurman makes. Filed purses are bogus.

Thurman vs Crawford wouldn't sell enough PPVs to justify putting the fight there when SHO would be willing to pay a monster license fee for it.

You just have no understanding of how this business works. You're suggesting Arum plot a complicated course that ends in a terrible fashion for him. It's never going to happen.

[killakali]

If it's 75/25 in Haymon's favor, OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO PURSE BID. He has all the leverage in that scenario.

You have no idea what Thurman makes. Filed purses are bogus.

Thurman vs Crawford wouldn't sell enough PPVs to justify putting the fight there when SHO would be willing to pay a monster license fee for it.

You just have no understanding of how this business works. You're suggesting Arum plot a complicated course that ends in a terrible fashion for him. It's never going to happen.

sho would never pay that monster licensing fee. Stop with the lies. Crawford made 3 million for Horn. Thurman made 2.5 for garcia even though his commission purse was much lower. That is common practice for Big purses.

Crawford makes 3 for Horn so he will want 4 for thurman. Thurman made 2.5 for Garcia so he would want at least 3.5 and more likely The same 4 crawford would want. Showtime is not putting up an 8 million licensing fee. You are embarrassing yourself.

[N/A]

sho would never pay that monster licensing fee. Stop with the lies. Crawford made 3 million for Horn. Thurman made 2.5 for garcia even though his commission purse was much lower. That is common practice for Big purses.

Crawford makes 3 for Horn so he will want 4 for thurman. Thurman made 2.5 for Garcia so he would want at least 3.5 and more likely The same 4 crawford would want. Showtime is not putting up an 8 million licensing fee. You are embarrassing yourself.

All youre doing is proving the fight wouldnt happen.

Haymon could bid 10 million, give Crawford 2.5 and make a side deal to give Thurman the 3.5 he'd want in your own scenario.

Giving Haymon full control of the fight, something Arum and ESPN would never allow. Youre living in a dream world.