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  • Rubber Ducky
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    #21
    Originally posted by WarHagler
    Thanks for the info well I can't think of a fighter who turned down that much money .
    Neither can I. It's not a very common scenario when you have 2 top champions and the disparity in drawing power is so huge that one can offer such a large multiple of their previous highest purse.

    When you consider what Mayweather paid other belt holders he fought that were not draws like Berto, Maidana, Ortiz and Baldomir and compare what Joshua offered Wilder, Wilder is being massively overpaid.

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    • bluebeam
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      #22
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      Well you might as well just list an entire roster bc ive NEVER heard of any boxer turning down that much .


      I think the problem is you guys don't realise that 2 .1 Million dollars SUCKS for a HW champion with 7 title defenses and it will be VERY hard to find someone getting more under paid then Wilder and then declining a 7 plus x what he makes !

      turning down the biggest purse in heavyweight history
      (50 million) is all i need to know about Anthony Joshua

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      • brettWall
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        #23
        Originally posted by bluebeam
        turning down the biggest purse in heavyweight history
        (50 million) is all i need to know about Anthony Joshua
        Problem with that $50 mil mantra which you guys keep chanting is that Joshua was not demanding more than that. He was ready to take less in favor of doing the fight at home base. I'd be happy to hear your explanation on what's wrong with that option, bearing in mind he's still the A side.

        In contrast, Wilder wanted more money than he deserves, which is in contradiction to what he was saying from the beginning, which he says it's the the fight he wanted, not the money.

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          #24
          Originally posted by WarHagler
          I think pac did
          If you mean turning down Mayweather's insulting offer of 40 a million flat fee Pac turned it down. He ended up making many times more than 40 million for the same fight and those who said he ducked Mayweather by not taking that offer looked like fools. GGG was supposed to quit begging and be happy with the 35% Oscar was willing to give him for the rematch. He demanded more and he got 45% instead which is many millions more. What boxer made before a huge fight means nothing. What means something is he is half of that huge fight and deserves to be paid many times what he ever made before. If the huge fight doesn't happen the B side loses out on a career high payday but so does the A side. Both sides need to take somewhat less than they think they deserve or often no deal is reached and the big fight never happens.

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            #25
            Originally posted by boliodogs
            If you mean turning down Mayweather's insulting offer of 40 a million flat fee Pac turned it down. He ended up making many times more than 40 million for the same fight and those who said he ducked Mayweather by not taking that offer looked like fools. GGG was supposed to quit begging and be happy with the 35% Oscar was willing to give him for the rematch. He demanded more and he got 45% instead which is many millions more. What boxer made before a huge fight means nothing. What means something is he is half of that huge fight and deserves to be paid many times what he ever made before. If the huge fight doesn't happen the B side loses out on a career high payday but so does the A side. Both sides need to take somewhat less than they think they deserve or often no deal is reached and the big fight never happens.
            You just killed the OP with this post

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            • rickJen
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              #26
              Originally posted by BreWall
              Problem with that $50 mil mantra which you guys keep chanting is that Joshua was not demanding more than that. He was ready to take less in favor of doing the fight at home base. I'd be happy to hear your explanation on what's wrong with that option, bearing in mind he's still the A side.

              In contrast, Wilder wanted more money than he deserves, which is in contradiction to what he was saying from the beginning, which he says it's the the fight he wanted, not the money.
              The B side in this case is allowed to turn down initial offers doe.
              Not the A side.

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                #27
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                If you mean turning down Mayweather's insulting offer of 40 a million flat fee Pac turned it down. He ended up making many times more than 40 million for the same fight and those who said he ducked Mayweather by not taking that offer looked like fools. GGG was supposed to quit begging and be happy with the 35% Oscar was willing to give him for the rematch. He demanded more and he got 45% instead which is many millions more. What boxer made before a huge fight means nothing. What means something is he is half of that huge fight and deserves to be paid many times what he ever made before. If the huge fight doesn't happen the B side loses out on a career high payday but so does the A side. Both sides need to take somewhat less than they think they deserve or often no deal is reached and the big fight never happens.
                Doe, Wilder is neither Pac nor Glovkin.
                He wasn't even recognized when he visited the White House.
                You're just guesstimating the size of this Wilder vs Joshua fight.
                None of us knows.
                In any case, a B side with none of the popularity of those you mentioned had to accept the fight and win it.
                The money will come later, just like what Glovkin, Pac, even May did when they were not as popular.

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                • juggernaut666
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  If you mean turning down Mayweather's insulting offer of 40 a million flat fee Pac turned it down. He ended up making many times more than 40 million for the same fight and those who said he ducked Mayweather by not taking that offer looked like fools. GGG was supposed to quit begging and be happy with the 35% Oscar was willing to give him for the rematch. He demanded more and he got 45% instead which is many millions more. What boxer made before a huge fight means nothing. What means something is he is half of that huge fight and deserves to be paid many times what he ever made before. If the huge fight doesn't happen the B side loses out on a career high payday but so does the A side. Both sides need to take somewhat less than they think they deserve or often no deal is reached and the big fight never happens.
                  Pacman was making over 20 Million ,he didnt need Mayweather to make a life changing pay check .

                  Why cant you guys grap that Wilder averages 1.4 Million a fight ....15 Million is A LOT of money to him even if the imbecile has 4 managers . lol

                  " What boxer made before a huge fight means nothing. " FALSE !

                  "What means something is he is half of that huge fight and deserves to be paid many times what he ever made before. "
                  ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
                  You just contradicted yourself here bc thats exactly what was going on !

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BreWall
                    Problem with that $50 mil mantra which you guys keep chanting is that Joshua was not demanding more than that. He was ready to take less in favor of doing the fight at home base. I'd be happy to hear your explanation on what's wrong with that option, bearing in mind he's still the A side.

                    In contrast, Wilder wanted more money than he deserves, which is in contradiction to what he was saying from the beginning, which he says it's the the fight he wanted, not the money.
                    If he was ready to take less than they would've offered a split and would've had the 1st undisputed HW title fight in UK history

                    He wanted Wilder to take less hence the flat offer


                    AJ was ready to take less when the initial offer was $12.5

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                    • juggernaut666
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by bluebeam
                      turning down the biggest purse in heavyweight history
                      (50 million) is all i need to know about Anthony Joshua
                      Well really you dont know much and your posts will show that like this one bc you go by what a fighter has made .

                      In Wilders case its a 2.1 highest pay turning down what would take him about FOUR years of 15 Million to make which is OVER 7 x his highest pay bc he averages 1.4 Million a fight.

                      Meanwhile in REALITY Joshua can make almost 50 Million in TWO fights yet you want to TRY and debate me on whos walking away from a high payday ?
                      Last edited by juggernaut666; 07-07-2018, 05:43 PM.

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