Comments Thread For: Hearn is Concerned: Povetkin is Dangerous Fight For Joshua

[The Big Dunn]

If Wilder really wanted it next he would have signed the contract without any more delay and cut Povetkin out of the picture.

He knew it would be in a major stadium, in the UK, in Oct, and he would be getting the same money wherever it ended up at and whatever the date.

I noticed you never answered the question if you knew if Hearn had ever extended a contract to a fighter without a date and venue. If he has not, which I suspect, then that is yet another clear sign he wasn't being sincere.

If the contract had a date and venue that would make sense. Without either, and knowing AJ wants the fight in Wembley, that is the equivalent of singing the type of "down the line" deal you excused GGG from singing when Canelo/ODH offered it. Why do excuse him and not Wilder?

This where you are not being honest. Hearn wants to launch DAZN with AJ, his biggest draw but explicitly doesn't want to launch DAZN with a US PPV fight, which wilder/AJ would be, because there would be no DAZN sales in the US.

If AJ wanted the fight next it would happen next since he is the shot caller, as you and others have posted numerous times.

He is fighting Povetkin next because that is what he wanted to do.

[Pingree24]

LMFAO! No you don't dude. I don't believe that for one second. That is you just giving AJ every benefit of the doubt.

Wilder has the power to end AJ, povetkin does not. Povetkin is skilled but, as the wlad fight showed us, he is not big enough to handle top tier large HWT's, even though he can beat the lower level ones.

If Hearn was serious about the fight being next he'd have a date and venue in the contract. he didn't because the venue he wants (wembley stadium) isn't viable until it gets warmer, things you have posted months ago.

Pretend wilder is GGG getting a contract with no date and venue, my guess is then you'd see my point.

This is hearns version of what golden boy did to ggg make him wait because you have the youth

[The Big Dunn]

This is hearns version of what golden boy did to ggg make him wait because you have the youth

The contract with no date or venue seems to be the equivalent. Not exactly the same but similar. Kafkod was adamant GGG didn't have to sign that offer, yet he wanted Wilder to sign the flat fee offer and then this contract sent over without the date and venue.

Doesn't make sense.

[kafkod]

I noticed you never answered the question if you knew if Hearn had ever extended a contract to a fighter without a date and venue. If he has not, which I suspect, then that is yet another clear sign he wasn't being sincere.

If the contract had a date and venue that would make sense. Without either, and knowing AJ wants the fight in Wembley, that is the equivalent of singing the type of "down the line" deal you excused GGG from singing when Canelo/ODH offered it. Why do excuse him and not Wilder?

This where you are not being honest. Hearn wants to launch DAZN with AJ, his biggest draw but explicitly doesn't want to launch DAZN with a US PPV fight, which wilder/AJ would be, because there would be no DAZN sales in the US.

If AJ wanted the fight next it would happen next since he is the shot caller, as you and others have posted numerous times.

He is fighting Povetkin next because that is what he wanted to do.

I don't know if Hearn has ever sent a contract with date and venue TBA, but I know he had a good reason to do it this time. Booking a football stadium during the football season is not straightforward, and he was working against a deadline from the WBA.

Contracts have been signed before with date and venue TBA - eg, Ward vs Kovalev-1, so stop pretending it's something unheard of and an automatic deal breaker.

If Wilder had wanted the fight next he would signed the contract and got it.

Over and out.

[The Big Dunn]

I don't know if Hearn has ever sent a contract with date and venue TBA, but I know he had a good reason to do it this time. Booking a football stadium during the football season is not straightforward, and he was working against a deadline from the WBA.

Contracts have been signed before with date and venue TBA - eg, Ward vs Kovalev-1, so stop pretending it's something unheard of and an automatic deal breaker.

If Wilder had wanted the fight next he would signed the contract and got it.

Over and out.

Yes, he had 2 reasons:

1. he wants the fight to launch DAZN and WIlder/AJ can't do that in the US because its a PPV
2. he wants that fight in Wembley in front of 90k fans, which can't be done in Oct because of the weather

No he wasn't. He created that issue by not singing the $50 mil deal sent to him.

You can't say for sure the fight was next because there was no date or venue in the contract.

Why was it ok for GGG not to sign but you want wilder to sign?

Why are you not willing to place blame with AJ ?

edit: kov ward had a date, not a venue. they also both were HBO signed fighters, which isn't the case here.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/sergey-kovalev-and-andre-ward-sign-to-fight-each-other/

[G22]

Povetkin a dangerous fight for Joshua. He took it to Klitschko like no other guy in 10 years including fury and Joshua and wvlad couldn't put him away. One of those leaping left hooks could finish Joshua so he needs to be alert. If it's a ref that doesn't allow povetkin to fight like the one who ruined the parker fight that will certainly help. As will the type of ref who stoped takam even though he was in no danger.
It's clear why Joshua wanted the wilder fight at home.

[kafkod]

You can't say for sure the fight was next because there was no date or venue in the contract.

Stop it! Hearn would never work in the business again if he tried pulling a stunt like that! He said the contract was for AJ and Wilder to fight each other next, this October, and I have no doubt that he was telling the vtruth.

Why was it ok for GGG not to sign but you want wilder to sign?

Like I said in a previous reply to you, I don't think Wilder should sign a contract now to fight AJ next year, with interim fights for both in the meantime. I certainly wouldn't do that if I was him.

[The Big Dunn]

Stop it! Hearn would never work in the business again if he tried pulling a stunt like that! He said the contract was for AJ and Wilder to fight each other next, this October, and I have no doubt that he was telling the vtruth.



Like I said in a previous reply to you, I don't think Wilder should sign a contract now to fight AJ next year, with interim fights for both in the meantime. I certainly wouldn't do that if I was him.

You have to doubt he is telling the truth given the DAZN plan. He can't both launch DAZN with AJ and have the AJ/Wilder fight in Oct given it will be a US PPV. Take out the DAZN plan and then maybe its believable.

The other reason you'd have to doubt it is Hearn saying he wants the fight in Wembley. If you can show me how Wembley in Oct is viable, cool.

You never judged GGG's willingness to want the fight on signing a deal like that so it is completely unfair to judge wilder that way.

[SUBZER0ED]

"Klitschko hit him with everything, couldn't budge him." Wlad grabbed & held Povetkin like he loved him. FOH. If Hearn needs to be worried about Joshua beating a 38 year old Povetkin, then the wrong guy has all of those belts.

[Boxingfanatic75]

You need to get your facts right, fella. Povetkin did not fail two tests prior to his cancelled fight with Wilder. He failed one test just before the fight date and the fight was cancelled pending an investigation.

The investigation cleared Povetkin to fight, because of "insufficient evidence" to ban him, but the WBC ruled that he had to fight a final eliminator with Stiverne to get his mandatory position back. It was while training for the Stiverne fight that Povetkin failed his second test and was suspended.

Ortiz did fail 2 tests prior to fighting Wilder, as a matter of fact. He failed the post fight test after beating Kayode for the WBA regular belt in 2014 and was stripped of the title. He then failed again while training to fight Wilder and the fight was cancelled as a result.

Take the two failed tests up with ESPN then. So either they are wrong or you are wrong and I’m straying towards he latter.

“Heavyweight contender Alexander Povetkin, who twice tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in an eight-month span in 2016 in the lead-up to WBC title bouts, was punished by the sanctioning organization in a ruling issued Thursday.”

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/18810394/alexander-povetkin-suspended-indefinitely-fined-250000-wbc-performance-enhancing-drug-violations