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  • kafkod
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    #81
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Come on-no one thinks Povetkin at 38 is more dangerous, especially if he will not be able to use PED's. He is simply too small for this era, something the wlad fight made painfully obvious.

    You're still trying to place blame on Wilder and that simply doesn't hold water given what we know. Wilder's profile is enhanced because the media has become interested in a big HWT fight. AJ is also getting more publicity in the US.

    Stop it. AJ offered Parker more than he did Wilder when Parker wasn't worth anywhere near that much. He very easily could've offered Wilder that now, he simply didn't because, again, Hearn and AJ want the fight in Wembley and that can't happen this year.

    Thats what is so shameful about alot of AJ fans. You all say AJ deserves the right to choose-which he does. You all say you want it in Wembley because of the 90k fans, something that will not happen in the US. Ok. So if that is the case, you have to be able to see Hearn was BSing when he said he would do it next in a smaller venue. Defies logic that he was serious, again, given all that British fans have posted.

    If WIlder get Brazeale out early and AJ is the 1st to KO Povetkin then yes, I agree the fight would be bigger if both win, especially since the Takam fight wasn't that great.

    I don't think anyone disagrees with you on anything other than placing any blame on Wilder.
    I think Povetkin is more dangerous than Wilder, even at 38, because Wilder has literally beaten nobody anywhere near as good in his entire career. There must be a reason why he has been wrapped in cotton wool like that for so long.

    Wilder was offered significantly more than Parker, even though AJ now has 3 world title belts, not two only, like he had when he fought Joe.

    If Wilder really wanted the fight next, he would have signed the contract for it when he had the chance. Stop pretending that the lack of an exact date and venue was an automatic deal breaker, it was no such thing.

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    • Jimmy gold
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      #82
      Originally posted by IBOX4LIFE
      Revisionist History: 1.) Wilder ducked Povetkin
      2.) Ortiz ducked Povetkin

      Facts: Povetkin went the distance with Huck, looked horrible against Charr, and has lately looked his age.
      Povetkin would ko ortiz facts on facts on facts

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        #83
        Originally posted by kafkod
        I think Povetkin is more dangerous than Wilder, even at 38, because Wilder has literally beaten nobody anywhere near as good in his entire career. There must be a reason why he has been wrapped in cotton wool like that for so long.

        Wilder was offered significantly more than Parker, even though AJ now has 3 world title belts, not two only, like he had when he fought Joe.

        If Wilder really wanted the fight next, he would have signed the contract for it when he had the chance. Stop pretending that the lack of an exact date and venue was an automatic deal breaker, it was no such thing.
        LMFAO! No you don't dude. I don't believe that for one second. That is you just giving AJ every benefit of the doubt.

        Wilder has the power to end AJ, povetkin does not. Povetkin is skilled but, as the wlad fight showed us, he is not big enough to handle top tier large HWT's, even though he can beat the lower level ones.

        If Hearn was serious about the fight being next he'd have a date and venue in the contract. he didn't because the venue he wants (wembley stadium) isn't viable until it gets warmer, things you have posted months ago.

        Pretend wilder is GGG getting a contract with no date and venue, my guess is then you'd see my point.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Jimmy gold
          Oh who do we have here? Have u finish washing bum wilders draws and done cooking him dinner in a sexy outfit my good sir? Also why did wilder fight Ortiz instead povetkin if both pop dirty he probably knew povetkin had a way better chance of knocking bum squad out lol ����
          Are you like brand new to boxing or just low IQ Joe? Povetkin was Wilder’s mandatory until popping positive for meldonium. Get a freaking clue will ya?
          Last edited by Boxingfanatic75; 06-29-2018, 10:51 AM.

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            #85
            Originally posted by IBOX4LIFE
            Revisionist History: 1.) Wilder ducked Povetkin
            2.) Ortiz ducked Povetkin

            Facts: Povetkin went the distance with Huck, looked horrible against Charr, and has lately looked his age.
            Jimmy Hold is a know nothing troll with low boxing IQ. Potvekin popped positive for meldonium hence the reason Wilder’s mandatory was not able to fight and he had to take Ortiz

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              #86
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              LMFAO! No you don't dude. I don't believe that for one second. That is you just giving AJ every benefit of the doubt.

              Wilder has the power to end AJ, povetkin does not. Povetkin is skilled but, as the wlad fight showed us, he is not big enough to handle top tier large HWT's, even though he can beat the lower level ones.

              If Hearn was serious about the fight being next he'd have a date and venue in the contract. he didn't because the venue he wants (wembley stadium) isn't viable until it gets warmer, things you have posted months ago.

              Pretend wilder is GGG getting a contract with no date and venue, my guess is then you'd see my point.
              Yeah .. because every tall HW is as good at handling shorter guys as prime Wlad was! GTFOH with that crap, lol.

              Wlad resorted to more holding and spoiling against Povetkin than ever before or since in his entire career .. which is saying a lot!

              I've watched a lot of Povetkin fights. He is exceptionally good at using footwork to close distance on taller, longer opponents and coming in behind hard punches at the same time. That's why Wlad was so damned wary of him.
              Last edited by kafkod; 06-29-2018, 10:48 AM.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
                Jimmy Hold is a know nothing troll with low boxing IQ. Potvekin popped positive for meldonium hence the reason Wilder’s mandatory was not able to fight and he had to take Ortiz
                Both Povetkin and Ortiz were cleared to fight by the WBC after investigations into their test failures while training for Wilder.

                Wilder gave Ortiz another chance and rescheduled the fight after he was cleared. He didn't do that with Povetkin.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  Yeah .. because every tall HW is as good at handling shorter guys as prime Wlad was! GTFOH with that crap, lol.

                  Wlad resorted to more holding and spoiling against Povetkin than ever before or since in his entire career .. which is saying a lot!

                  I've watched a lot of Povetkin fights. He is exceptionally good at using footwork to close distance on taller, longer opponents and coming in behind hard punches at the same time. That's why Wlad was so damned wary of him.
                  I clearly differentiate between the good ones and the lower tier ones. Don't pretend you didn't see that.

                  No he didn't, he held a ton before. I will admit he looked terrible in this fight.

                  Povetkin can beat the garbage guys but I don't think he can do that against the top guys. he's lost to wlad and cheated rather than fight Wilder.

                  Besides, why would Hearn risk AJ losing before Wilder?

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                  • kafkod
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    I clearly differentiate between the good ones and the lower tier ones. Don't pretend you didn't see that.

                    No he didn't, he held a ton before. I will admit he looked terrible in this fight.

                    Povetkin can beat the garbage guys but I don't think he can do that against the top guys. he's lost to wlad and cheated rather than fight Wilder.

                    Besides, why would Hearn risk AJ losing before Wilder?
                    One thing you can't accuse AJ of is not taking risks.

                    He fought in the world amateur championships when he was still, literally, a raw novice.

                    As a pro he won a world title from an undefeated champion in his 16th fight and fought Wlad in his 19th.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      One thing you can't accuse AJ of is not taking risks.

                      He fought in the world amateur championships when he was still, literally, a raw novice.

                      As a pro he won a world title from an undefeated champion in his 16th fight and fought Wlad in his 19th.
                      Come on bro stop acting like things aren't different now. That was before he was the HWT champ and the biggest draw in the sport.

                      Now he is "a business " so that dictates he will change how he moves and how he goes about making fights. Wilder's power is such that he could KO AJ and that would limit how much Hearn can monetize him.

                      Edit: There is also the fact that Hearn wants to use the Povetkin fight to launch his DAZN series. He didn't want to do that with a Joshua US PPV, which the wilder fight would be, or use another fighter to open the series, which makes sense since AJ is the biggest draw..

                      All signs point to Hearn never wanting the fight next.
                      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-29-2018, 11:21 AM.

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