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  • kafkod
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    #91
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Come on bro stop acting like things aren't different now. That was before he was the HWT champ and the biggest draw in the sport.

    Now he is "a business " so that dictates he will change how he moves and how he goes about making fights. Wilder's power is such that he could KO AJ and that would limit how much Hearn can monetize him.
    Same thing applies to Povetkin, and he has a much better record of KO'ing real world class opponents than Wilder.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #92
      Originally posted by kafkod
      Same thing applies to Povetkin, and he has a much better record of KO'ing real world class opponents than Wilder.
      See my edit.

      He has a record of KOing the dregs of the division when he was most likely on PED's.

      Since he got caught cheating he KO'd duhappas and price (coming off getting KTFO by hammer and then a 6 rd fight) but UD's hammer and rudenko. that isn't exactly ali, holmes, norton and tyson.

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        #93
        Originally posted by kafkod
        Both Povetkin and Ortiz were cleared to fight by the WBC after investigations into their test failures while training for Wilder.

        Wilder gave Ortiz another chance and rescheduled the fight after he was cleared. He didn't do that with Povetkin.
        See now you aren’t including the rest of the story. Ortiz popped for an agent that is supposed to mask PEDs then 6 months later was tested 7 times before the fight and all tests were negative. Povetkin tested positive 6 days before the fight

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          #94
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Come on bro stop acting like things aren't different now. That was before he was the HWT champ and the biggest draw in the sport.

          Now he is "a business " so that dictates he will change how he moves and how he goes about making fights. Wilder's power is such that he could KO AJ and that would limit how much Hearn can monetize him.

          Edit: There is also the fact that Hearn wants to use the Povetkin fight to launch his DAZN series. He didn't want to do that with a Joshua US PPV, which the wilder fight would be, or use another fighter to open the series, which makes sense since AJ is the biggest draw..

          All signs point to Hearn never wanting the fight next.
          Like I keep saying .. neither of them really wanted it next!

          If either one had really wanted it next, it would either be happening next or the duck by one side or the other would have been so blatently obvious than no-one would be arguing about it now!

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            #95
            Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
            See now you aren’t including the rest of the story. Ortiz popped for an agent that is supposed to mask PEDs then 6 months later was tested 7 times before the fight and all tests were negative. Povetkin tested positive 6 days before the fight
            They both failed tests before their fights and had the fights cancelled, then they were both cleared because of insufficient evidence after an investigation by the WBC.

            The rest of the story is that Wilder then gave Ortiz another chance and rescheduled their fight, but he didn't do that with Povetkin. Isn't that exactly what I said?

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              #96
              Originally posted by kafkod
              Like I keep saying .. neither of them really wanted it next!

              If either one had really wanted it next, it would either be happening next or the duck by one side or the other would have been so blatently obvious than no-one would be arguing about it now!
              It is clear/blatant who is to blame:

              -Hearn/AJ wants fight in Wembley, wembley not good this time of year.
              -Contract sent over with no date or venue.
              -AJ/Hearn flinch when they get the $50 mil they want because it isn't in England, which AJ says he wnats
              -Hearn wants AJ to launch DAZN but not in a fight that is PPV in the US.
              -Initial offer to Wilder was flat fee

              You are implicating Wilder because you are an AJ fan, not because the facts point to him.

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                #97
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                It is clear/blatant who is to blame:

                -Hearn/AJ wants fight in Wembley, wembley not good this time of year.
                -Contract sent over with no date or venue.
                -AJ/Hearn flinch when they get the $50 mil they want because it isn't in England, which AJ says he wnats
                -Hearn wants AJ to launch DAZN but not in a fight that is PPV in the US.
                -Initial offer to Wilder was flat fee

                You are implicating Wilder because you are an AJ fan, not because the facts point to him.
                And you can't dodge the fact that if Wilder really wanted it next, and he was really sure of winning it, he would have signed the contract Hearn sent him.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
                  Are you like brand new to boxing or just low IQ Joe? Povetkin was Wilder’s mandatory until popping positive for meldonium. Get a freaking clue will ya?
                  Ortiz did to but wilder wanted to fight him cause he knew he was less of a challenge than povetkin

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
                    Jimmy Hold is a know nothing troll with low boxing IQ. Potvekin popped positive for meldonium hence the reason Wilder’s mandatory was not able to fight and he had to take Ortiz
                    Bruh don’t hate cause I speak facts wilder is a fraud paper champion

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      And you can't dodge the fact that if Wilder really wanted it next, and he was really sure of winning it, he would have signed the contract Hearn sent him.
                      LMFAO! If not signing a contract with no date and venue means Wilder didn't want the fight, then sending the contract over without a date or venue has to mean AJ didn't want the fight, especially when you consider the other things I listed.

                      come on kafkod.

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