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  • kafkod
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    #71
    Originally posted by Pingree24
    Sasha the hardest puncher at hw ? What the hell are you on bro ? Thats the dumbest thing i read all week both aj & wilder hit harder than sasha . You are coming off as ******ed and a wilder hater , how did you feel when wilder stopped ortiz in the 10 th were you mad ? Upset ? Like dude that was an awesome fight and all you do is say really wacked out & dumb **** , so whats your deal bro ?
    Povetkin knocked both Takam and Duhaupus out cold with one punch. AJ couldn't do that to Takam and Wilder didn't have Duhaupus off his feet in 11 rounds.

    Ortiz is way over-rated and Wilder's team knew it, which was why they were still so keen to fight him, even after his PED test failure.

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    • The plunger man
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      #72
      Originally posted by ukbox
      They'd pay double to watch him pump their missus or mum

      Plunger is on his 5th credit card & is getting desperate now phoning up all the PIP claimlines
      plunger is a great name init in fact so great I am actually in your sub conscious.....I reckon I still come second to slick Eddie seeing as he double dipped your mum & sister proper ATM'd them as well

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      • JWHardin
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        #73
        Originally posted by kafkod
        Povetkin may be a 39 year old 2 time PED cheat, but he is clearly bettter than the 39-going-on-45 year old 2 time PED cheat Ortiz, who he replaced as AJ's WBA mando after Ortiz ducked Joshua to fight Wilder instead.
        Ortiz ducked Joshua??? You are delusional dude. It was the other way around. They wouldn't even give Ortiz a fight with AJ when Hearn had him in his stable.

        Ortiz is more of a challenge than Povetkin, due to his size, skills, and being a southpaw. They are both the same age.

        When Pulev pulled out of the fight with AJ, they could have replaced him with Ortiz, but instead they immediately contacted Takam, so Ortiz took the fight with Wilder.

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        • kafkod
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          #74
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          If you recall I picked Povetkin to beat Wilder and didn't understand why he needed to cheat. I think Ortiz was easier for Wilder than Povetkin as well.

          Hearn sent over a contract without a date or a venue. Now you are entitled to believe what you wish, but I think you know that isn't kosher. and isn't a sign of truly wanting the fight.

          I haven't heard of any instance where Hearn has sent a contract without a date and venue, have you?

          We also know Hearn's preference is to maximize the number of fans by doing the fight in Wembley, which can't be done in the last quarter of the year due to the weather. Hearn hasn't changed his position on where he wants the fight so that is another clear signal as to why he had no real plan to have the fight next,

          The bottom line is AJ has the right to make whatever choice he wants. Now that he has made his choice, hold him accountable. Don't make it Wilder's fault because he didn't sign a contract without a date or venue.
          Neither of them really wanted the fight next, imo.

          Also imo .. AJ's trainer, Rob McCracken - not Eddie Hearn - thinks Wilder is more dangerous to AJ than Povetkin.

          But AJ trusts his trainer's judgement on fighters more than he trusts Hearn's, which is why as a team, Povetkin first is their preferred option.

          It's easy to see why Wilder's team are more than happy to delay the fight too. Wilder is getting a lot of much needed publicity out of this bitchfest, and his profile in the States is rising as a result.

          Assuming they both win their interim fights, Wilder will still be the "B side" to AJ come next April, but maybe not so far behind as he is now, and in a position to justify demanding more than the $15million flat fee offer he apparently accepted a couple of weeks ago.

          That's why I don't think Hearn has much hope of getting Wilder to accept those same terms for an April 2019 fight right now. Like Oscar's flat fee offer to GGG, it doesn't make sense for the "B side" - from a business point of view.

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          • kafkod
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            #75
            Originally posted by JWHardin
            Ortiz ducked Joshua??? You are delusional dude. It was the other way around. They wouldn't even give Ortiz a fight with AJ when Hearn had him in his stable.

            Ortiz is more of a challenge than Povetkin, due to his size, skills, and being a southpaw. They are both the same age.

            When Pulev pulled out of the fight with AJ, they could have replaced him with Ortiz, but instead they immediately contacted Takam, so Ortiz took the fight with Wilder.
            Ortiz was AJ's WBA mando, but the WBA agreed that AJ had to fight his IBF mando first before fighting Ortiz.

            If Ortiz hadn't decided to fight Wilder instead, he would have been fighting AJ next, not Povetkin.

            That's not just my opinion .. those are facts

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            • ukbox
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              #76
              Originally posted by The plunger man
              plunger is a great name init in fact so great I am actually in your sub conscious.....I reckon I still come second to slick Eddie seeing as he double dipped your mum & sister proper ATM'd them as well
              You fit your name.

              Seeing as you're always cleaning & clearing Eddie's pipe work

              Only thing Hearn dips is sweeties in sherbert, the fat fück

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              • Pingree24
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                #77
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Povetkin knocked both Takam and Duhaupus out cold with one punch. AJ couldn't do that to Takam and Wilder didn't have Duhaupus off his feet in 11 rounds.

                Ortiz is way over-rated and Wilder's team knew it, which was why they were still so keen to fight him, even after his PED test failure.
                Duhaupus took that fight with less then 24hrs notice and wore tennis shoes for christ sake , do you watch fights or just go to boxrec and look at results .

                Not only that he only fought Duhaupus because he got busted roiding and stiverne pulled out and wbc tossed him out of the rankings . Like i said , whats your deal you a hater or just a really dumb fan of anybody not named wilder ?

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                • kafkod
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Pingree24
                  Duhaupus took that fight with less then 24hrs notice and wore tennis shoes for christ sake , do you watch fights or just go to boxrec and look at results .

                  Not only that he only fought Duhaupus because he got busted roiding and stiverne pulled out and wbc tossed him out of the rankings . Like i said , whats your deal you a hater or just a really dumb fan of anybody not named wilder ?
                  Ortiz got busted roiding too .. but lets all ignore that ...

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Neither of them really wanted the fight next, imo.

                    Also imo .. AJ's trainer, Rob McCracken - not Eddie Hearn - thinks Wilder is more dangerous to AJ than Povetkin.

                    But AJ trusts his trainer's judgement on fighters more than he trusts Hearn's, which is why as a team, Povetkin first is their preferred option.

                    It's easy to see why Wilder's team are more than happy to delay the fight too. Wilder is getting a lot of much needed publicity out of this bitchfest, and his profile in the States is rising as a result.

                    Assuming they both win their interim fights, Wilder will still be the "B side" to AJ come next April, but maybe not so far behind as he is now, and in a position to justify demanding more than the $15million flat fee offer he apparently accepted a couple of weeks ago.

                    That's why I don't think Hearn has much hope of getting Wilder to accept those same terms for an April 2019 fight right now. Like Oscar's flat fee offer to GGG, it doesn't make sense for the "B side" - from a business point of view.
                    Come on-no one thinks Povetkin at 38 is more dangerous, especially if he will not be able to use PED's. He is simply too small for this era, something the wlad fight made painfully obvious.

                    You're still trying to place blame on Wilder and that simply doesn't hold water given what we know. Wilder's profile is enhanced because the media has become interested in a big HWT fight. AJ is also getting more publicity in the US.

                    Stop it. AJ offered Parker more than he did Wilder when Parker wasn't worth anywhere near that much. He very easily could've offered Wilder that now, he simply didn't because, again, Hearn and AJ want the fight in Wembley and that can't happen this year.

                    Thats what is so shameful about alot of AJ fans. You all say AJ deserves the right to choose-which he does. You all say you want it in Wembley because of the 90k fans, something that will not happen in the US. Ok. So if that is the case, you have to be able to see Hearn was BSing when he said he would do it next in a smaller venue. Defies logic that he was serious, again, given all that British fans have posted.

                    If WIlder get Brazeale out early and AJ is the 1st to KO Povetkin then yes, I agree the fight would be bigger if both win, especially since the Takam fight wasn't that great.

                    I don't think anyone disagrees with you on anything other than placing any blame on Wilder.

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                    • IBOX4LIFE
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                      #80
                      Huh?? What??

                      Originally posted by Jimmy gold
                      U know it’s true that’s why wilder ducked povetkin but fought Ortiz fraaaaaaaauuuuuud squuuuuaaaad
                      Revisionist History: 1.) Wilder ducked Povetkin
                      2.) Ortiz ducked Povetkin

                      Facts: Povetkin went the distance with Huck, looked horrible against Charr, and has lately looked his age.

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