Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis: Joshua Changed His Tune About Fighting Wilder

[KnickTillDeaTh]

then why was his face falling off ?

Vitali was not more skillful..... he did not move better..... and he did not have a higher ringIQ

He absolutely did. What does the eye have to do with it? Lewis was losing the fight convincingly.

[greeneye99]

Explain how you came to this conclusion. When Wilder’s side was assuming all the financial risks. Especially when AJ isn’t a proven draw in America. Which is where the fight would have taken place had AJ accepted the $50M guarantee. The only thing we have to go on as far as AJ’s drawing power in America is his low TV ratings. Wilder’s ratings are actually better.

Wilder never doubt on PPV can't fill a Stadium...ratings prove nothing..It's a PPV fight AJ has already proven he can get Paid Views...

[aboutfkntime]

Vitali was a beast, I much prefer him to Wlad

I miss the big fella

the problem with the Lewis fight is this.....

NOBODY can question a stoppage by the doctor..... NOBODY

oh..... unless you can furnish your medical degree..... then provide proof that you are experienced..... and then provide proof that you had a closer look at Vitali's face than did the ringside physician

waiting.....

that's what I thought

the " controversy " in that fight is caused by two things.....

in order.....

1) the fact that there was no rematch
2) the fact that Vitali may have been ahead on the cards at the time of stoppage

FACT: NEITHER of those reasons are valid justification to question that WIN by Lewis

e.g.

Vitali may have won the rematch, but so what..... how does that change what happened in the first fight?..... a reverse-win rematch does not erase the result of the first fight, it creates a trilogy

and Vitali may have been ahead on the cards, just like many other fighters were before they got stopped..... again, so what?

I admit that Wlad achieved more..... but Vit > Wlad imho

[aboutfkntime]

It's my opinion that Vitlali was the better fighter, and I'm not British nor Ukrainian, so that is a very unbiased opinion. Resumes don't prove who was the better fighter, it's silly to even suggest it. Vitali was a better fighter because he was more skillful, more power, better jab, moved better, higher ring IQ, and the bigger more athletic of the two. It was evident when they were in the ring, and evident every time Vitali fought. The fight happened in 2003, you won't change my opinion, which is why your response is a waste of time. Don't forget, everybody wanted to fight Vlad, nobody wanted to fight Vitali, including Lewis. Vitali defeated what was available, and he did it impressively. Hey what was Lewis' best win? Over the hill Hollyfield, Tyson, undersized Tua? Glass house.

then why was his face falling off ?

Vitali was not more skillful..... he did not move better..... and he did not have a higher ringIQ

[KnickTillDeaTh]

How was he the better fighter? You said you know the history then why did you say there was a rematch clause? Yes I like Lennox & I followed both careers but you are clearly making an assumption that he would of destroyed him all because he won 4 rounds. Vitali’s resume doesn’t indicate he is a better fighter. He feasted on overmatched opponents. The list of contenders in his era that he didn’t fight is pretty long. Two best opponents he fought 0-2. What is his best win? Peter? Arreola? Adamek? Briggs? Larry Donald? So you must be a Vitali fan if you think he is the better fighter...TKO 6. What were Vitali’s voluntary defences? Adamek, Sosnowski, Danny Williams, Chisora & Briggs, Arreola... Yep he was such a massive risk taker...

It's my opinion that Vitlali was the better fighter, and I'm not British nor Ukrainian, so that is a very unbiased opinion. Resumes don't prove who was the better fighter, it's silly to even suggest it. Vitali was a better fighter because he was more skillful, more power, better jab, moved better, higher ring IQ, and the bigger more athletic of the two. It was evident when they were in the ring, and evident every time Vitali fought. The fight happened in 2003, you won't change my opinion, which is why your response is a waste of time. Don't forget, everybody wanted to fight Vlad, nobody wanted to fight Vitali, including Lewis. Vitali defeated what was available, and he did it impressively. Hey what was Lewis' best win? Over the hill Hollyfield, Tyson, undersized Tua? Glass house.

[Ray*]

To be honest, those belts don't carry as much weight as people like to think. Sure it is a great thing to be undisputed by way of having all the belts, but the belts don't make the fights big, the fighters make the fights big.

This is a huge fight that will generate almost twice as much as what Joshua-Parker generated. 15M is likely no more than 20% of the total purse. You've acknowledged that it's short money, yet you're saying you have no problem with the A-side offering short money. Why is it that the A-side gets a free pass for short money offers with you? If the A-side wants the fight, wouldn't they offer better than at least a 25% split, which is the minimum that a mandatory gets on a purse bid.

Show me where I acknowledge the A-side was offering short money, I couldn’t care less if they offer short money or more money, no A-side is going to do you a favour, you are coming for their cash cow’s head and you want them to lay a red carpet for you? Lol, And yes the belts carry everything in this instance for the B-side, having all the four belts help his profile in his own country.

Until recently Wilder had a low profile in America, no one is going to deny that, not until his name was attached to Joshua did people actually knew they had an American HW belt holder.

My point for every B-side is the same one I attached to GGG, Mayweather (Pre-Oscar) and now Wilder, if you want the fight then take the short end of the stick, don’t let money be your sole motivation. And no am criticising both sides, and pointing Team Wilder side as well, because some people seems to think they are blameless in this whole saga.

[aboutfkntime]

hah that reminds me.... anyone remember this ?

[aboutfkntime]

you can disagree with Lewis..... fine

but..... you cannot discredit him

that man can say..... whatever the F he likes

pugilist specialist !!

[Raggamuffin]

Bowe Lewis all over again! Lennox knows this all too well, lol...

[thack]

Lennox is spot on and yes AJ. has put his suit on and left his gloves.