Hearn: The offer is still on the table

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Im sorry but thats nonsense. You've completely thrown out the time-frame of the deal which makes up this topic and are suggesting that wilder can keep fighting and defending his belts and his stock will rise.

WHo is he going to fight for that stock to rise? Povetkin? what if he loses to joshua.. that wont rise his stock.

Parker? Already lost to joshua.. stock wont rise.
Whyte? Already lost to joshua and turned down his career high payday to fight him already.. stock wont rise.

Rematch Ortiz? an older... even worse blood pressured ortiz? nope.. still cant see that stock rising.

There is literally nothing Wilder can do right now that makes his stock rise further than what it currently is instead of signing this deal to net him the most money he will ever make.

the terms he can command .. will not change. his opponents should he not sign.. will always be of a poor level or opponents AJ has already beaten. that doers not rise stock or better your public perception in this business.

As for Golovkin. beating jacobs was beating the number 3 in the division outside of him and canelo.. he was widely regarded to have won the fight against canelo. Then canelo got popped.. GGG threatened to go to saunders which would have left canelo with whom exactly?

Nobody from PBC would have taken the canelo fight? nobody but golovkin would net canelo anywhere near the gate or PPV revenue? Golovkin beat the best other contender in jacobs and then used the threat to fight the other world champion to garner more of the pot knowing his name brought in a massive sway of the revenue.

Joshua might make more fighting wilder.. but he still makes 20 mil + if he fought a bin man. There is no other world champion for wilder to levy as a perception enhancer by beating.

The simple fact is.. it does not get any better for wilder than the deal being given to him now.

If he is as good as he says he is. he triples his net worth in three fights against a bum of his choice and a robot he thinks is easy pickings.. and becomes to undisputed HW champion

These are all very good points, I just simply see it the same as the two examples I gave, just on the other foot. That exact phrase has been used numerous times by Floyd, DLH & Canelo.

You don't necessarily have to take out killers for your stock to rise, it would just quicken the rise. If Wilder knocks out bums he'll still keep gaining notoriety with the public.

Joshua & Wilder make the most together, they each make career highs with this fight. The longer each wait to sign (as long as they keep winning) the larger the pot ends up being. I agree, as long as Joshua has other options he may choose not to sweeten the pot, but as the potential pay-day increases it becomes harder to put off & most eventually give %splits whether everyone agrees with the negotiated result.

[yammy25]

These are all very good points, I just simply see it the same as the two examples I gave, just on the other foot. That exact phrase has been used numerous times by Floyd, DLH & Canelo.

You don't necessarily have to take out killers for your stock to rise, it would just quicken the rise. If Wilder knocks out bums he'll still keep gaining notoriety with the public.

Joshua & Wilder make the most together, they each make career highs with this fight. The longer each wait to sign (as long as they keep winning) the larger the pot ends up being. I agree, as long as Joshua has other options he may choose not to sweeten the pot, but as the potential pay-day increases it becomes harder to put off & most eventually give %splits whether everyone agrees with the negotiated result.

I can absolutely see your point.. but with the state of the division as it is... it couldnt be further from welterweight in the floyd manny days.

The crop to pick from for fights is absurdly shallow.. if AJ beats povetkin, he literally has w's over everyone wilder could have possibly hoped to face to get more recognition.

If he goes that route then in the future sure people will simply look at the KO rate or the 0 or the nationality and appearance and get to like it, but when they do.. it wont take long for that casual brain to be told by others

" hey you do know that joshua knocked those guys out or beat them first"

" you do know the last 6 guys wilder fought where nowhere near even the dumpsters of the HW division in '16'17'18 etc"

I just dont think that due the current HW players.. and the terms of the deal he is offered.. that there is anything he can do in the interim or in the event of turning it down that could boost his stock high enough to command any difference in the financials.

But green k'd for the debate.

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Thanks, bro! "Finkle, Winkle, Dinkle, whatever you want to call him."

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Laceds linked it i think couple posts above mate

Got it, thanks, bro!

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Imagine AJ goes out and smashes Povetkin in 4 rounds on American tv again, and Wilder goes and has a back and forth with Breazele. That's a very likely scenario to me. Of course Wilder will win - Hell, I was one of the guys picking Wilder to beat Ortiz from the beginning, I'm a massive fan of his fights. Very exciting.

But I can't see him going back and saying I want a split if that transpires. Or at least getting it accepted. But then again, imagine how much this fight has grown since the Ortiz fight. So maybe another 10 months will add a few zeroes to everyone's number, I don't know. Possibly.

I hope Wilder gets more - He deserves it. But I think he'll find it hard to come out of this situation without publicly stating that he just simply changed his mind on the offer.

He should just come out and say his number is now 25million. The public will demand the fight.

All these things about they didn't want the fight, they are cowards and stuff, honestly, that's pathetic. A quick look over both guys' career shows that AJ is certainly not scared to take risks - As well as Wilder isn't.

I think AJ is in control of his own career. He signed a new deal with matchroom some years ago and I remember they totally changed how the deal worked incl. setting up AJBXNG his management company.

Big problem with that scenario. AJ’s fight probably won’t be on American TV. Plus, it’s boxing. Anything can happen.

[ukbox]

Its easy to see how Wilder's stock continues to rise. He leaves his opponents out cold

A lot of Joshua's wins are ref stoppage

[The plunger man]

its ******ed logic, you guys are trying very hard to make it seem like wilder is the one that doesnt want the fight.. only one of them turned down the 50 mil that they asked for

or hearn could ask for like a week extension from wba and fight wilder this year, you think hes ducking by not signing a contract 10 months early lol wtf

Look bumford its already been proven that the proof of funds was never shown to hearn with that $50 mil and hearn never saw a contract ....it was all 2 bob bull**** from donkey & winkle made up on social media.
The A-side is still offering wilder is highest ever purse and still he wont sign fact.
Bumford you cretin

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He’s offering a fight in between on DAZN?

Eddie Hearn has no f**king shame

[LacedUp]

Big problem with that scenario. AJ’s fight probably won’t be on American TV. Plus, it’s boxing. Anything can happen.

I'm thinking it'll be on DAZN for their first show.

But yeah, with Wilder he obviously also could do a Stiverne, an KO someone in the first round - he seems to be on a roll.

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I'm thinking it'll be on DAZN for their first show.

But yeah, with Wilder he obviously also could do a Stiverne, an KO someone in the first round - he seems to be on a roll.

Yeah, man. Big blow for Joshua’s visibility here.