The Point Everyone Misses on Wilder V Joshua

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The main point that everyone keeps missing in this so called negotiation. Wilder is advised by some of the smartest men in boxing that have made some of the biggest fights in history. There is no way Haymon and Finkel advised Wilder to take either of Hearn's ****ty offers for a fight of this magnitude. But Wilder made it clear I will shallow a lot crap to make it happen and Haymon and Finkle said ok we will get it done.

Look to the other side and its different. Hearn is just doing what he supposed to do to protect his investment. He is a slimy boxing promoter looking to make as much money as possible as quickly as he can before AJ gets beat. I don't fault him for doing what promoters do. This is all on Anthony Joshua. If he truly believed he could beat Wilder he would be begging to get the fight done. I used to be a fan but he has already admitted out of his own mouth the he fears losing a fight and all that comes with that.

So blame fast Eddie all you want but this is all on AJ

You probably also believe the moon landings were faked.

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you dont get to call your beliefs common sense.. when there is such a large divide between opposing parties that doesnt form the basis of common sense.

I don't know a single person in the industry that believes Hearn wants the fight more than Wilder does. So I form my common sense based on the people I deal with who are knowledgeable and experienced. If you're talking about "common sense" on this particular message board, this particular message board is largely UK fans who believe ever single word Hearn says.

Hearn sent the contract.. he stated before finkel even said he had comments that he was working on a date and venue.

Hearn and Finkel have two different accounts of when the contract was sent. Hearn has been caught in more lies, causing me to be more likely to believe Finkel. Hearn benefits more from the Wilder fight not being next, causing me to be more likely to believe Finkel. You guys believe Hearn because he's the promoter of the fighter you love. Who is more likely to be telling the truth doesn't enter into the equation for you.

he has stated that before finkel even stated he had comments to ESPN, that he had asked and been assured by Hearn that whilst a date and venue was being planned and not in concrete but that wilder was next. Finkel was fine with this.

And it turns out Hearn was lying and didn't actually intend for Wilder to be next. Hearn is already saying the offer still stands . . . FOR APRIL. The WBA hasn't ordered a purse bid. Nothing is stopping Hearn from accepting the Wilder fight next. His actions show he doesn't want it next.

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I don't know a single person in the industry that believes Hearn wants the fight more than Wilder does. So I form my common sense based on the people I deal with who are knowledgeable and experienced. If you're talking about "common sense" on this particular message board, this particular message board is largely UK fans who believe ever single word Hearn says.






Hearn and Finkel have two different accounts of when the contract was sent. Hearn has been caught in more lies, causing me to be more likely to believe Finkel. Hearn benefits more from the Wilder fight not being next, causing me to be more likely to believe Finkel. You guys believe Hearn because he's the promoter of the fighter you love. Who is more likely to be telling the truth doesn't enter into the equation for you.




And it turns out Hearn was lying and didn't actually intend for Wilder to be next. Hearn is already saying the offer still stands . . . FOR APRIL. The WBA hasn't ordered a purse bid. Nothing is stopping Hearn from accepting the Wilder fight next. His actions show he doesn't want it next.

I'm not touching the first two because it's the same merry go round with you as before. As far as the venue and date being arranged thing goes Finkel hasn't come out to deny he said ok to Hearn so we can wait and see on that one.

As of yet your "sources" and just your opinion that Finkel wants the fight more doesn't constitute as evidence to me.

As for your last statement .. they don't need to order a purse bid. A deal had already been established throughout wilder negotiations for a UK fight. Which is why I crease myself that so many of you wilder fans wanted Hearn to lose the purse bid and have to fight in Russia or be stripped.

I will say however ..I think the deal that's been left open on the table for wilder Is a very good offer