Bellew: wilder lost his balls, they are on the internet

[BLASTER1]

But being serious, (and I will not swear, insult or otherwise drag this discussion down), how do Wilder supporters explain:

1. Why didn't he sign?

2. Related to 1 above, he didn't even communicate. That is to say, if he wanted clarification on venue and date, why didn't they respond QUICKLY and get it cleared up?

3. Why did they wait weeks and weeks before responding? They KNEW time was running out or AJ would get stripped, explain this lack of effort and communication?

4. Why did he not go to UK for AJ Parker

5. Why did they refuse to meet in New York when Hearn flew over and gave them a head's up that they should take the opportunity to sit down and talk?

Honestly gents, Hearn is an absolute pro, and will make big money off this fight. Take away all Wilder's posturing on social media and what you are left with, actual facts, are that he and his team simply did not put any effort into making this come together.

I simply don't understand the balance of the arguments here. Wilder screaming stuff over social media, the other side showing an actual desire, including sending documents, terms and conditions etc. How can anyone not see this?

Have you not been keeping up?
Everyone knows Hearn didnt want this fight.
It wasnt Wilder or AJ not wanting this fight it was Hearn the puppet master doing all the ducking.

[juggernaut666]

No.

But it tells you in this case who is well placed to talk about taking a risk vs reward fight and not doing every trick in the book to play games at PR.

The fight is the fight, the reward is the reward. Wilder ****ed about with PR too much trying to get leverage instead of just signing to fight.

These ******s dont want to hear that !

Its as if theyre frightened to blame Wilder instead of logically figure out why the fight isnt happening . Wilder is obviously at fault here and his fan girls cry on about Joshua fans who TOLD them Wilder was going to run to social media like a bytch and pump his chest out the second Povetkin would be ordered on Joshua. lol

Anyone reading his tweets can see hes a classless champion and Hearn put him subtley in his place on there and he still continued to rant like a deranged woman who got dumped .

[juggernaut666]

Have you not been keeping up?
Everyone knows Hearn didnt want this fight.
It wasnt Wilder or AJ not wanting this fight it was Hearn the puppet master doing all the ducking.

Is Hearn a mutant with telepathic abilities like Professor Xavier where he used mind control , telling Wilder not to sign the contract ?

[Ray*]

But being serious, (and I will not swear, insult or otherwise drag this discussion down), how do Wilder supporters explain:

1. Why didn't he sign?

2. Related to 1 above, he didn't even communicate. That is to say, if he wanted clarification on venue and date, why didn't they respond QUICKLY and get it cleared up?

3. Why did they wait weeks and weeks before responding? They KNEW time was running out or AJ would get stripped, explain this lack of effort and communication?

4. Why did he not go to UK for AJ Parker

5. Why did they refuse to meet in New York when Hearn flew over and gave them a head's up that they should take the opportunity to sit down and talk?

Honestly gents, Hearn is an absolute pro, and will make big money off this fight. Take away all Wilder's posturing on social media and what you are left with, actual facts, are that he and his team simply did not put any effort into making this come together.

I simply don't understand the balance of the arguments here. Wilder screaming stuff over social media, the other side showing an actual desire, including sending documents, terms and conditions etc. How can anyone not see this?

I always believe NOT meeting up in New York was a bad idea. You had a chance to sit down with Hearn twice but didn’t. You then made a 50m dollar offer (Which is cool) but then NO meeting until they accept!

Am sorry but when you are NOT the A-side then you cannot act like one, everyone involved in this holds a share of the blame.

Instead of sitting down in one office and trash out a deal, they spend 2 months trying to either hype this fight, or fool the fans.

[BLASTER1]

Is Hearn a mutant with telepathic abilities like Professor Xavier where he used mind control , telling Wilder not to sign the contract ?

Many of you Hearn fanboys would say that he does, but in my opinion NO.

[Scopedog]

But being serious, (and I will not swear, insult or otherwise drag this discussion down), how do Wilder supporters explain:

1. Why didn't he sign?

2. Related to 1 above, he didn't even communicate. That is to say, if he wanted clarification on venue and date, why didn't they respond QUICKLY and get it cleared up?

3. Why did they wait weeks and weeks before responding? They KNEW time was running out or AJ would get stripped, explain this lack of effort and communication?

4. Why did he not go to UK for AJ Parker

5. Why did they refuse to meet in New York when Hearn flew over and gave them a head's up that they should take the opportunity to sit down and talk?

In turn:

1. Because allegedly the document that was sent was missing important details and contained terms that were deleterious from their point of view. You don't just sign any piece of paper that gets thrown in front of you without reading it or addressing the issues you have with it.

2. As far as I know this isn't actually the case, there were other stories about Finkley attempting to communicate with Hearn and co. via email about the particulars shortly after receiving the contract and getting no response.

3. See above.

4. Because it was made clear he wouldn't be allowed in the ring and thus he saw the trip as pointless.

5. This one I don't know. Maybe it wasn't convenient or they had other commitments or whatever, maybe they just didn't trust him enough to see a face-to-face meeting as worthwhile. At any rate it was a mistake but it's fairly insignificant in the big picture.

[juggernaut666]

Many of you Hearn fanboys would say that he does, but in my opinion NO.

Well wouldn't the fan boys be the ones reversing the blame to the side that actually sent the contract instead of the ones that made it difficult from the start and ended up not signing it ?

[285Kid]

American fighters right now are idiots they keep listing to the online boxing community, Wilder had the $12 million dollar just take it and beat him no you trying to play a side

[BLASTER1]

Well wouldn't the fan boys be the ones reversing the blame to the side that actually sent the contract instead of the ones that made it difficult from the start and ended up not signing it ?

Have any of us seen this contract and what the contract actually says.
Who knows what ****** stipulations Hearn has put in this contract for Wilder not to sign it straight away.

[Boksfan]

In turn:

1. Because allegedly the document that was sent was missing important details and contained terms that were deleterious from their point of view. You don't just sign any piece of paper that gets thrown in front of you without reading it or addressing the issues you have with it.

2. As far as I know this isn't actually the case, there were other stories about Finkley attempting to communicate with Hearn and co. via email about the particulars shortly after receiving the contract and getting no response.

3. See above.

4. Because it was made clear he wouldn't be allowed in the ring and thus he saw the trip as pointless.

5. This one I don't know. Maybe it wasn't convenient or they had other commitments or whatever, maybe they just didn't trust him enough to see a face-to-face meeting as worthwhile. At any rate it was a mistake but it's fairly insignificant in the big picture.

You Wilder fanboys are in full damage control mode.