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  • champion4ever
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    #111
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    The fights not happening because Deontay lost his balls and his pen. Shame. Now he can fight nobodies for a pittance.
    LOL, Yeah, that's what you will tell your AJ fanboys. You all must think Deontay is a damn fool just because he's from a Tuscaloosa Alabama; Which by the way has been named the most livable city in America and one of the "50 Best College Towns" in America according to Wikipedia.

    So the man isn't ****** as he resides in a community that has some of the best higher learning institutions in the country. In addition, just because he's from the South doesn't mean he is naive or foolish enough to sign a blank contract.

    The fact is, Matchroom boxing tried to hoodwink him into signing away his life. However, thank Goodness he was able to discern and see through all the Bullshit that they were trying to put down.

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      #112
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
      The fights not happening because Deontay lost his balls and his pen. Shame. Now he can fight nobodies for a pittance.
      LOL, Yeah, that's what you will tell your AJ fanboys. You all must think Deontay is a damn fool just because he's from a Tuscaloosa Alabama; Which by the way has been named the most livable city in America and one of the "50 Best College Towns" in America according to Wikipedia.

      So the man isn't ****** as he resides in a community that has some of the best higher learning institutions in the country. In addition, just because he's from the South doesn't mean he is that naive or foolish enough to sign a blank contract.

      Matchroom Boxing tried to hoodwink him by attempting a slick a can of oil on him by getting him to sign a contract with no proper venue or date. However, thank goodness Wilder had the presence of mind, discernment, commons sense and the Due diligence in seeing through all the bullshit that they were trying to put down.

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        #113
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee
        Deontay is the people's champ? Hahahahahahahaha Nobody even knows who he is. Man, you're crazy delusional.

        It was all about the money. Wilder was claiming 12 mill was beneath his worth. So don't give me that load of nonsense.

        Wilder's fans are as deluded as he is. And they contradict themselves just as much too.
        Don't get it twisted mate. Your boy AJ is all about the money. He asked Wilder for $50 Million and guess what they gave to him.

        He got it but wasn't permitted to keep it because Barry and Eddie Hearn persuaded him to not to take it because it would have been too risky fighting Deontay so soon and at this point. Also, it would have been too dangerous and a very bad career move because he would have stood to lose $Millions of dollars once he had lost to Wilder by way of knockout.

        Both his stock and marketing value would have seen a significant dip as all his major sponsors would have dropped him.

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        • Rip Chudd
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          #114
          Originally posted by Boxingfan8888
          Dude look it doesn’t matter about delaying to more by giving x days

          Don’t you get my point, wilder had enough days and people won’t wait forever

          Aj signed to fight

          Wilder wanted more time

          All wilder has to do is fight, if wilder signed and returned it, the fight would be on

          How does aj not want it by signing to fight ?

          How does wilder want it when he refuses ?

          The absolute fact is and I ask you again my friend to dispute this

          Wilder never signed to fight aj

          Aj signed to fight wilder

          Therefore it’s on wilder

          Bellew wanted vs Haye and signed

          Floyd wanted vs oscar and signed

          Wilder never wanted it so he never signed
          1. I never said AJ doesn't want the fight. I don't think Hearn wants it
          2. As I said before, of course AJ signed, HIS promoter drew up the contract, so everything for him was already cleared and good for him to sign
          3. Wilder's side asked for clarification and revisions on a couple points on the contract. Are they supposed to just get it back and sign right away trusting that it's in there without their lawyers and people going over it again to make sure nothing else out of the ordinary was added? Again, where did Finkel say they received the contract back with the venue and date of the fight? You said everything was agreed to and they were just waiting to sign it right. Hearn just gave an IFLTV interview, even he didn't say they had a date and venue. He said they were still looking
          4. Joshua(i'm sure at the influence of Hearn) walked away from the biggest guarantee in heavyweight history. Fight could of already been made
          5. In my opinion it was always in Hearns plans to stall this fight. Now look at how quick he just came back out saying the fight can happen with a date already picked out in April of next year. He is even trying to get options on Wilder with adding that he can get an extra 5 mil for a fight in September or October.

          Honestly though, I don't even care anymore. This crap has drawn out too darn long and we know now they aren't fighting each other next. Screw Finkel and Hearn.
          Last edited by Rip Chudd; 06-27-2018, 09:56 PM.

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            #115
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee
            You claimed Floyd earned more so didn't have to pay his opponents any more than 2-4 million. But claimed Joshua should pay more because he isn't on Floyd's level. Yes you did.

            Joshua is worth that because he is a big PPV star. Wilder isn't worth more because he's a nobody. So you're now contradicting yourself. If Joshua is worth 50 mill, why can't he pay Wilder 2-4 mill like Floyd paid his opponents?
            Lol @ dummies who can't distinguish Floyd from when he was selling under 1 million ppv's ten years ago as opposed to when he fights ODLH, Manny Pacquiao, Canelo and McGregor. Huge difference. Ignorantly, you're comparing one better than average PPV fight vs. Klitschko vs. current Floyd who is the all time PPV king.

            That's just ridiculous. 15 million from a 100 million dollar fight is a joke. And if you think that was fair, you're a joke.
            Last edited by Boxing Goat; 06-27-2018, 10:53 PM.

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              #116
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
              So your saying if Joshua is worth 2.5x his highest payday, that Wilder is worth 8x his highest payday? What kind of math is that?
              What ignorance in this world tells you that Wilder deserves about 15% of a pot of cash that ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE HE'S INVOLVED, when a mandatory challenger gets 25% if a fight goes to a purse bid? Plus Wilder is a mfkn champion and was so before Joshua! Do you really need me to do the math on a potential 100 million dollar fight? 15 million is low as f@ck and Wilder even took it anyways to be the undisputed champ! You idiots just don't want the fight because you know that danger is REAL. How fkn dumb are you motherf@ckers? Seriously!?!?

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                #117
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                Don't get it twisted mate. Your boy AJ is all about the money. He asked Wilder for $50 Million and guess what they gave to him.

                He got it but wasn't permitted to keep it because Barry and Eddie Hearn persuaded him to not to take it because it would have been too risky fighting Deontay so soon and at this point. Also, it would have been too dangerous and a very bad career move because he would have stood to lose $Millions of dollars once he had lost to Wilder by way of knockout.

                Both his stock and marketing value would have seen a significant dip as all his major sponsors would have dropped him.
                ^ This is spot on. Joshua is worth more to them over the course of a few fights as opposed to getting paid a lot for one extremely dangerous fight that he has a very real change of not only losing, but getting knocked out very badly and costing him valuable future earning potential.

                I don't blame the Hearn side from wanting to maximize the earnings of Joshua before putting him in there with a killer like Wilder but I can't respect the way that they went about seeing to it that the fight didn't take place before next year. I didn't have a favorite in the fight but I can't actively root for Joshua after what has happened.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                  Lol @ dummies who can't distinguish Floyd from when he was selling under 1 million ppv's ten years ago as opposed to when he fights ODLH, Manny Pacquiao, Canelo and McGregor. Huge difference. Ignorantly, you're comparing one better than average PPV fight vs. Klitschko vs. current Floyd who is the all time PPV king.

                  That's just ridiculous. 15 million from a 100 million dollar fight is a joke. And if you think that was fair, you're a joke.
                  You made a fool of yourself with the last post, you're now making a bigger fool of yourself now.

                  Go back and read our posts to see how crazy you really are.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                    What ignorance in this world tells you that Wilder deserves about 15% of a pot of cash that ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE HE'S INVOLVED, when a mandatory challenger gets 25% if a fight goes to a purse bid? Plus Wilder is a mfkn champion and was so before Joshua! Do you really need me to do the math on a potential 100 million dollar fight? 15 million is low as f@ck and Wilder even took it anyways to be the undisputed champ! You idiots just don't want the fight because you know that danger is REAL. How fkn dumb are you motherf@ckers? Seriously!?!?
                    It was only valued as a 100 mill fight in the US, not the UK. And even then that was just a hope. 2 fighters who aren't big in the sates and haven't fought on PPV doesn't look good regardless of the bull**** by people like you.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                      ^ This is spot on. Joshua is worth more to them over the course of a few fights as opposed to getting paid a lot for one extremely dangerous fight that he has a very real change of not only losing, but getting knocked out very badly and costing him valuable future earning potential.

                      I don't blame the Hearn side from wanting to maximize the earnings of Joshua before putting him in there with a killer like Wilder but I can't respect the way that they went about seeing to it that the fight didn't take place before next year. I didn't have a favorite in the fight but I can't actively root for Joshua after what has happened.
                      Wilder is a killer? A killer of what, bums? And he even struggles with them.

                      Wilder is on borrowed time. It will all collapse soon enough. The writing is on the wall.

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