Comments Thread For: Wilder Erupts on Joshua: I Smell P*ssy, You Coward Ass B*tch!

[j.razor]

The only b!tch in heavyweight boxing is Alabama diva Beyonce Whiner asking for 20+ mil to get her cherry popped.

Aj won't pop the cherry so who's the real b!tch?

[N/A]

12.5m you biggest pay ever you reject it, so who is ducking who

Couldn't you say the same thing about AJ turning down 50 million?

[j.razor]

Oh shut the hell up already.

Still rollin with the losers I see....LOL

[ChrisCook]

The worst thing about this situation, other that the fact that it looks like this fight is not happening next, is that the fans are left to hypothesize about why this fight is not happening. From a fan's point of view who just wants to see the fight so we can truly determine who is the #1 heavyweight in the world, this is a huge disappointment. We have Wilder's camp saying one thing and Joshua's camp saying another thing. Since nobody here is actually part of either camp nor present during negotiations, we can only be left to deduce what we think happened.
Wilder and Finkel claim they responded to the contract and received no response from Hearn in return. Joshua and Hearn claim Wilder's camp agreed to terms, requested a contract, and never signed and returned it nor even contacted Matchroom regarding their concerns regarding the terms of the agreement.
Somebody's telling the truth and somebody's lying. Hopefully the truth comes out in the mix and we get a legitimate explanation of WTF actually happened. I trust neither Hearn the promoter nor Wilder's management team. We need a neutral party to step in and confirm or deny all the talk and put a rest the blame game with actual facts of what has happened and what is happening now regarding negotiations.

That is possibly the most sensible thing that I have read on this topic!

[ukbox]

You do understand that I'm not putting any onus on Wilder to sign right? I'm certainly not calling him a fool either, I won't criticize a boxer for trying to maximize his earnings (which is essentially what this merry-go-round is all about), all boxers deserve whatever they can get for stepping in the ring.
He stated via social media that he agreed to the terms and would sign a contract but when it was sent, he didn't.
Furthermore, I'm not suggesting that Wilder should do anything, I'm simply asking that if the 'reported' points surrounding the venue and dates are such a problem now, then why agree to the terms? They would have known this already; or are you suggesting that EH changed those significant details after Wilder's agreement, before sending the contract? Because that's not what was "put to print" in anything that I have read.
Ultimately we don't know what has been said behind closed doors or between the teams but to totally blame one side, only because you support the other, all without applying as much as a minuscule amount of common sense or logic; well these are without doubt, the actions of the foolish!
For what it's worth, I actually think the scenario of the two meeting next year (with Wilder/Breazeale and AJ/Povetkin next) has been the has been the plan all along. The promoters are just doing their jobs and using this time to build the fight publicly into a mega event.

All the press releases by Hearn were that he was angling for Oct /November date in the UK.
Its not a giant leap to say these were what was agreed by Wilder.
Therefore the contract should have stated exact date tba but agreed in principal for thr months of oct-november 2018
That would have been a contract that adhered to the terms that wilder had agreed to

[MrShakeAndBake]

Windmil should fight Tyson to get that lineal “belt”. Joshua vs Windmill fight is not going anywhere, year early year later it will happen. Everyone is acting like one of them is getting old or something. They are two best heavy weights today. Chill.

[Madison Boxing]

Wilders acted like a classless child throughout.

[ukbox]

The worst thing about this situation, other that the fact that it looks like this fight is not happening next, is that the fans are left to hypothesize about why this fight is not happening. From a fan's point of view who just wants to see the fight so we can truly determine who is the #1 heavyweight in the world, this is a huge disappointment. We have Wilder's camp saying one thing and Joshua's camp saying another thing. Since nobody here is actually part of either camp nor present during negotiations, we can only be left to deduce what we think happened.
Wilder and Finkel claim they responded to the contract and received no response from Hearn in return. Joshua and Hearn claim Wilder's camp agreed to terms, requested a contract, and never signed and returned it nor even contacted Matchroom regarding their concerns regarding the terms of the agreement.
Somebody's telling the truth and somebody's lying. Hopefully the truth comes out in the mix and we get a legitimate explanation of WTF actually happened. I trust neither Hearn the promoter nor Wilder's management team. We need a neutral party to step in and confirm or deny all the talk and put a rest the blame game with actual facts of what has happened and what is happening now regarding negotiations.

WBN world boxing news already ran this timeline. They had the scoop from Hearn & Finkel & posted a timeline of events. They're neutral in this

[ukbox]

Here's the WBN timeline

After the fight collapsed this week, WBN looks at where it all went wrong with a full and frank timeline of negotiations from start to finish.

See below for the very beginning of the whole saga, which happened just before Joshua unified further against Joseph Parker in March.

Full timeline of events leading to collapse of Joshua v Wilder:

March 23, 2018 - Joshua fires the first warning to Wilder.

Anthony Joshua WARNS Deontay Wilder on undisputed clash: Get SERIOUS or we'll FREEZE YOU OUT!

March 28 - Joshua confirms intentions to open talks

Anthony Joshua recalls previous efforts to fight Deontay Wilder, fully intends to open talks again

March 30 - Sky Sports Head of Boxing Adam Smith says he doesn't expect a deal until 2019

EXCLUSIVE: Anthony Joshua v Deontay Wilder COULD BE A YEAR AWAY, says Sky Boxing Chief

April 1 - Deontay Wilder's team give the first indication they will accept a deal in the UK

EXCLUSIVE: Message to Joshua from Wilder team - 'WE ACCEPT, send CONTRACTS immediately!'

April 2 - Initial talks and potential terms are revealed

Joshua v Wilder: Fans given REAL HOPE of UNDISPUTED clash as 60-40 TERMS and TALKS are revealed

April 3 - Wilder accepts a fight in the UK

Deontay Wilder releases statement on Anthony Joshua fight

April 4 - Joshua promoter Eddie Hearn reveals contact with Al Haymon

Hearn OPENS TALKS for Joshua v Wilder, reveals why UNDISPUTED clash NEEDS TO HAPPEN NEXT

April 5 - Joshua's mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin throws a spanner in the works

Povetkin demands threaten Joshua v Wilder undisputed fight

April 8 - Shelly Finkel outlines his reservations about Joshua accepting the fight

Shelly Finkel: Only way Deontay Wilder fight doesn't happen will be down to Anthony Joshua

April 9 - Joshua rejects fighting Povetkin

Joshua DISMISSES Povetkin, wants WBA mandatory DELAY as Wilder undisputed OFFER is prepared

April 10 - AJ states he wants home advantage for the initial fight

'UK first, then USA - If I was Deontay Wilder, I'd grab this great deal!' - Anthony Joshua

April 11 - Joshua's opening offer is revealed to be $12.5m

Joshua offers Wilder far less than Parker, can expect counter offer

April 26 - Wilder counters Joshua with huge $50m USA deal

Deontay Wilder counters Anthony Joshua by granting $50m MEGA-PURSE wish, sets DEADLINE

April 26 - Hearn asks for proof the money exists

SHOW ME THE MONEY! - Hearn admits interest in Wilder's $50m purse offer, Joshua wants proof

May 14 - Povetkin representatives hold talks with Matchroom in London as talks stall

Hearn meets with Povetkin promoter Ryabinskiy, means one of two things for Joshua v Wilder

May 20 - A USA venue is effectively ruled out for the first contestJoshua v Wilder: Undisputed fight in jeopardy over US / UK venue

Joshua v Wilder: Undisputed fight in jeopardy over US / UK venue

May 21 - Team Povetkin await confirmation of September fight with Joshua

EXCLUSIVE: World of Boxing seek Joshua v Povetkin green light for SEPTEMBER FIGHT, unsure of Wilder intentions

May 22 - Joshua officially rejects $50m United States offer

Eddie Hearn explains Anthony Joshua decision NOT TO ACCEPT $50m to face Deontay Wilder in USA

May 29 - Wilder signals intentions to fight Joshua in the UK

Deontay Wilder says Anthony Joshua fight WILL HAPPEN, possibly SEPTEMBER in UK

June 2 - Joshua attempts to draw out Wilder with Povetkin threat

Anthony Joshua v Alexander Povetkin CLOSE as heavyweight king TURNS BACK ON undisputed Deontay Wilder clash

June 4 - Hearn states Povetkin fight is more likely than Wilder

Eddie Hearn says 'at the moment it's Joshua v Povetkin', holds out hope for Deontay Wilder agreement

June 11 - Wilder accepts counter deal offered by Hearn and Joshua

WORLD EXCLUSIVE: Deontay Wilder ACCEPTS Anthony Joshua terms with REMATCH CLAUSE for 2018 UK CLASH - says Shelly Finkel

June 12 - Wilder co-manager and trainer Jay Deas reveals terms of new UK deal

EXCLUSIVE: Wilder trainer Deas confirms Joshua offer is 'WAY LESS' than their $50m, looks forward to UK clash

June 13 - Finkel accuses Hearn of confusing fans regarding negotiations

EXCLUSIVE: Eddie Hearn CONTRADICTED himself on Joshua v Wilder NEGOTIATIONS - says Shelly Finkel

June 14 - Hearn says Joshua v Wilder reigns have been handed over to father Barry

EXCLUSIVE: Eddie Hearn responds to Shelly Finkel comments, updates on Joshua v Wilder talks

June 14 - Hearn says Cardiff in October or November are likely dates for Joshua v Wilder

EXCLUSIVE: Eddie Hearn on Joshua v Wilder CONTRACT, DATES, NEW VENUE and Povetkin DEAL STATUS

June 17 - Wilder alludes to the possibility of Joshua backing out of a deal

Joshua v Wilder: WBC Champ goads rival as undisputed agreement deadline looms

June 19 - CONFIRMED: Joshua v Wilder CONTRACT SENT for heavyweight SUPER-FIGHT ...

June 19 - EXCLUSIVE: Anthony Joshua UNDISPUTED deal REMAINS ALIVE, in THE HANDS of Deontay Wilder's team ...

June 20 - EXCLUSIVE: Anthony Joshua v Deontay Wilder - Contract being CONSIDERED, deal hangs IN THE BALANCE ...

June 20 - Joshua v Wilder contract sent THREE DAYS LATE comes with 'SIGN NOW OR WE FIGHT POVETKIN' warning ...

June 21 - Clock ticking on Joshua v Wilder agreement as Povetkin waits ...

June 21 - Showtime boss expects Joshua v Wilder confirmation ...

June 21 - EXCLUSIVE: 'I'm hearing it's Joshua v Wilder in October' - says Dereck Chisora ...

June 21 - EXCLUSIVE: Team Wilder LEFT WAITING FOR CLARIFICATION in order to MOVE FORWARD with Joshua CONTRACT ...

June 22 - Joshua v Wilder: TWO CONTRACT CLARIFICATION POINTS from an UNDISPUTED agreement ...

June 23 - Eddie Hearn comments on Joshua v Wilder CONTRACT POINTS as clouds form over Showtime / DAZN US TV RIGHTS ...

June 23 - CONFIRMED: Joshua v Wilder CONTRACT POINTS ADDRESSED, response NEXT WEEK - says Shelly Finkel ...

June 23 - EXPLOSIVE! SHOCKED Deontay Wilder BREAKS SILENCE, gives interview blasting Eddie Hearn and talking Anthony Joshuanegotiations ...

June 25 - Eddie Hearn replies to Deontay Wilder video interview, questions desire to fight Anthony Joshua ...

June 25 - EXCLUSIVE: Shelly Finkel SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT on Joshua v Wilder, reveals CONTRACT will be SENT BY FRIDAY ...

June 26 - EXCLUSIVE: Shelly Finkel reveals ASTONISHING 'FACT' regarding Deontay Wilder's $50m US OFFER to Anthony Joshua ...

June 26 - SHOCKER: Joshua handed WAY OUT of Wilder clash as WBA give 24 HOURS to seal Povetkin mandatory ...

June 26 - Eddie Hearn explains why Anthony Joshua cannot wait another three days for Deontay Wilder contract ...

June 26 - EXCLUSIVE: Shelly Finkel gives EXPLOSIVE RESPONSE, says ‘Anthony Joshua and team NEVER WANTED Deontay Wilder fight' ...

June 26 - EXCLUSIVE: Hearn offers Wilder April 13th Joshua date at Wembley ...

June 26 - EXCLUSIVE: ‘Team Joshua SHOULD HAVE ASKED WBA for WilderEXCEPTION if they REALLY WANTED the fight’ – says Finkel ...

June 27 - Deontay Wilder RAGES AT 'cowards' Anthony Joshua and Eddie Hearn, says Alexander Povetkin mandatory DIDN'T MATTER over UNIFICATION ...

Hopefully things can pick up again after Joshua faces Povetkin in September, with that date of April 13th the only indication so far that Wilder has something to consider.

Joshua needs to come through the tough Povetkin unscathed, whilst Wilder must now concentrate on WBC mandatory Dominic Breazeale.

http://www.***************.net/2018062724368/news/joshua-v-wilder-how-undisputed-heavyweight-unification-fell-apart

[champion4ever]

I am sorry AJ fans but your boy done fucked up now. He has no where left to run or hide. He has less than 10 months and then he belongs to the Bronze Bomber. April 13, 2019 is just around the corner.