Comments Thread For: Devon Alexander vs. Andre Berto on Garcia-Easter Card

[WesternChamp]

What exactly is the point of this fight?

pretty much ask the same thing when floyd fought him..

[Dr.Cool]

sorry Angulo vs mora was dog shiet. This fight isn’t good either. Alexander is boring as hell and Berto for all his flaws used to be exciting. He’s just too shot now. Porter isn’t a power puncher and over powered him.

This fight shoUld he done FS1 filler. Not valuable showtime fights.

Sorry, but there just aren't that many good fights in a year. We have seen Pac-Rios on ppv, we have seen g-Rubio on hbo, we have seen DSG-Rios earlier this year... they may not be exciting, but like I said they are low-end second tier fighters. They have some name recognition. Just saying, there are a lot of crap fights, and most of the time its some has-been against an elite fighter. Alexander-Berto on an undercard is at least decent. Just wait til the end of this year when the winner gets Spence! And we will have Crawford fight Benavidez or Matthysse!

I'm with you, I wanna see the best fight the best. But this is boxing, and we aren't going to get that too often. This isn't any fight of the year candidate but I have seen worse. And in fact, we will see worse as headliners later this year.

[killakali]

Sorry, but there just aren't that many good fights in a year. We have seen Pac-Rios on ppv, we have seen g-Rubio on hbo, we have seen DSG-Rios earlier this year... they may not be exciting, but like I said they are low-end second tier fighters. They have some name recognition. Just saying, there are a lot of crap fights, and most of the time its some has-been against an elite fighter. Alexander-Berto on an undercard is at least decent. Just wait til the end of this year when the winner gets Spence! And we will have Crawford fight Benavidez or Matthysse!

I'm with you, I wanna see the best fight the best. But this is boxing, and we aren't going to get that too often. This isn't any fight of the year candidate but I have seen worse. And in fact, we will see worse as headliners later this year.

I actually like Crawford vs Benavidez but Benavidez needs one more fight first and Matthysse if he beats Pac is a great fight vs Crawford.

By the way GBP and Tr don't just have a handful of fighters. GBP has at least 50 and TR has over 80

[pillowfists98]

Stephen Espinoza said that Spence will probably fight again in December so it looks like he'll fight the winner of this fight.

[killakali]

Thank you for your opinion, but that has absolutely nothing to do with anything I said.

Whether Alexander can win an eliminator or beat Spence is irrelevant. Part of controlling belts is controlling mandatories and part of controlling mandatories is controlling eliminators.

Alexander is very high in the IBF ratings, it's possible he could be set up with Jesse Vargas to become mandatory, so he needs a solid win right now to justify Showtime putting him back in a co-feature or possibly even a main event. Berto has a name and would be a good win for Alexander right now while he's playing the waiting game with the IBF.

he couldn’t control that IBF 168 mandatory either. I heard DeGale is just going to return that belt rather than try to defend it.

[Dr.Cool]

I actually like Crawford vs Benavidez but Benavidez needs one more fight first and Matthysse if he beats Pac is a great fight vs Crawford.

By the way GBP and Tr don't just have a handful of fighters. GBP has at least 50 and TR has over 80

GB and TR only have a handful of relevant fighters. Granted TR does have two top fighters and GB does have the biggest money maker.

But no, Bud should be fighting at least a top 20 ww. My God, Benavidez's resume is worse than Ocampo's!!! Literally! No, DSG, Porter, Thurman, Spence, and Bud would all destroy this prospect. He needs another fight??? Come on, if Spence fought Ocampo as an optional everyone would have thrown a fit. And rightfully so. And Ocampo has a better resume than Benavidez!!

As for Matthysse, are you kidding me? Seriously, are you kidding? The guy spent his entire career at 140 and never once won a title. He literally quit against Postol because of a black eye. Matthysse woulda been a good fight 7 or 8 years ago, but today, in 2018? No, I don't care if beats a small, slow, 40 year old with no power. That is a joke.

The Alexander-Berto winner would be a better opponent than freaking Matthysse.

You must really not think Bud is that good at all. If you believe Bud vs. Matthysse or Benavidez (Benavidez!!! worse resume than Ocampo!!!) are decent fights, you obviously have a much lower opinion of Bud than everyone else.

Personally I believe Bud is a top fighter and should stick to fighting top 20 welterweights.

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he couldn’t control that IBF 168 mandatory either. I heard DeGale is just going to return that belt rather than try to defend it.

So what is your position? That since Haymon can't control every IBF mandatory ever, that he shouldn't even bother trying to control the ones he can?

[killakali]

GB and TR only have a handful of relevant fighters. Granted TR does have two top fighters and GB does have the biggest money maker.

But no, Bud should be fighting at least a top 20 ww. My God, Benavidez's resume is worse than Ocampo's!!! Literally! No, DSG, Porter, Thurman, Spence, and Bud would all destroy this prospect. He needs another fight??? Come on, if Spence fought Ocampo as an optional everyone would have thrown a fit. And rightfully so. And Ocampo has a better resume than Benavidez!!

As for Matthysse, are you kidding me? Seriously, are you kidding? The guy spent his entire career at 140 and never once won a title. He literally quit against Postol because of a black eye. Matthysse woulda been a good fight 7 or 8 years ago, but today, in 2018? No, I don't care if beats a small, slow, 40 year old with no power. That is a joke.

The Alexander-Berto winner would be a better opponent than freaking Matthysse.

You must really not think Bud is that good at all. If you believe Bud vs. Matthysse or Benavidez (Benavidez!!! worse resume than Ocampo!!!) are decent fights, you obviously have a much lower opinion of Bud than everyone else.

Personally I believe Bud is a top fighter and should stick to fighting top 20 welterweights.

see this post right here just shows your bias. Obviously Benavidez doesn’t have a great resume but to say ocampos is better is an ignorant statement. U must be new to boxing.

Ocampo has never won an interim title which Benavidez has. Not that it is a big deal to win one but wins over Mauricio Herrera who beat your boy Danny Garcia (debatable of course) and Chia Santana who beat Felix Diaz and has a draw against your boy Julian Williams shows your bias.

Saying that the Alexander-Berto winner is better than Matthysse is laughable. One Matthysse has a damaged eye socket that kept him out over a year after the Postol fight. To say he never won a belt at 140 is cute of u. U know he did when he obliterated Lamont Peterson who also has a win over your boy danny garcia. Just Lamont was cute and had the fight staged at 141 to not put it on the line in the ultimate b*tch move.

Berto is the same guy who got ktfo by the journeyman Soto Karass and lost to Victor freaking Ortiz and that is supposed to be a better fight? Lmaooo. Pillow punching Robert Guerrero made him look like an alien and Shawn Porter doesn’t have a lot of power either and blew him out. He’s beyond shot.

Devon Alexander? Lmao. Yeah in 2008 when he was at 140. Didn’t this guy lose to freaking Aaron Martinez who isn’t even on Soto Karass level??? Smh. Just listening to him grunt every time he throws a punch makes me want to vomit. Who can forget his epic fights vs Randall Bailey or Lee purdy? Boy there’s dimes excitement.

I didn’t say either fight was great but remember these Espn guys stay active and fight every 3-4 months. It won’t be a Killer each time out.

And Berto and Alexander and Mattysse are about equally shot. The difference is Matthysse has a history of making exciting fights.

[killakali]

So what is your position? That since Haymon can't control every IBF mandatory ever, that he shouldn't even bother trying to control the ones he can?

my position isn’t he can’t control most of them and that he’s going to advise his fighter James DeGale to turn in his belt because he’s tired of seeing Uzcategui beat up PBC fighters.

Even Stevenson he’s shipping off to Espn but he knows he’s got a 50-50 chance to keep that belt.

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my position isn’t he can’t control most of them and that he’s going to advise his fighter James DeGale to turn in his belt because he’s tired of seeing Uzcategui beat up PBC fighters.

Even Stevenson he’s shipping off to Espn but he knows he’s got a 50-50 chance to keep that belt.

What does any of that have to do with trying to move Devon Alexander up the IBF rankings?

Haymon is going to have the top 3 contenders in the IBF at welterweight. That's not a coincidence. That's by design. Haymon's monopoly at welterweight is one of the most important aspects of his business.