Prime Pacquiao vs Crawford or Spence. Who wins?

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  • sunny31
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    #221
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Common sense here guys. Manny is a 1st ballot HOF'er. He has wins over HOF boxers. but there is a reason he never fought Raheem and avoided Floyd for so long-they are both bigger, more athletic boxers that can move.

    Manny always had problems with movement and guys that could box. These mythical fights aren't against plodders like Clottey or Margs just standing in front of Manny.

    Spence is just too big and skilled. He would knock prime Manny out brutally. Crawford is too long and would outbox Manny. He might get a late stoppage.

    Just too much size and skill for Manny to overcome.
    I would give Manny a shot against Spence, it's a tough, tough fight but not beyond him in his prime. Spence can be outsped/outboxed, the size difference and heavy handedness might be a problem too much to overcome, but I wouldn't be so certain. Spence is not super fast on his feet and he doesn't throw with his opponent all that much, he waits. Against Manny he could be waiting all night and getting hit a lot in the interim. Plus I have a sneaky su****ion Spence might be fragile against shots he doesn't see. 50/50 type fight in my opinion. Maybe Spence's size makes it 60-40 In his direction.

    Crawford is special, and stylistically I think he would handle Manny in his prime, but again, not a straight forward W. I think Crawford would present Manny with the type of problems he had in Morales 1, and then some.

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    • djtmal
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      #222
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      You didn’t call it that in the thread where you called for the fight to happen next.

      You called it garbage AFTER the guy you wanted to win lost. That’s when you called it a cherry pick as well. Maybe you just forgot.

      Or maybe you’re just a maggot that got caught lying when you got upset Floyd beat a guy you felt he wouldn’t.
      Oh so now you know what guy I wanted to win?

      Thats two posts you need to find. Happy digging.

      Floyd picked a good time to fight Shane. When he was on the shelf for a year and a half and already rickety. Outside of the right hand Shane landed, the fight was a dud. You usually come to those type of conclusions after all is said and done.


      I give you 24 hours to dig up those posts. While you at it, finally decide whether floyd was carrying McGregor or not.

      By the way, good job deflecting Floyd ducking Thurman.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #223
        Originally posted by sunny31
        I would give Manny a shot against Spence, it's a tough, tough fight but not beyond him in his prime. Spence can be outsped/outboxed, the size difference and heavy handedness might be a problem too much to overcome, but I wouldn't be so certain. Spence is not super fast on his feet and he doesn't throw with his opponent all that much, he waits. Against Manny he could be waiting all night and getting hit a lot in the interim. Plus I have a sneaky su****ion Spence might be fragile against shots he doesn't see. 50/50 type fight in my opinion. Maybe Spence's size makes it 60-40 In his direction.

        Crawford is special, and stylistically I think he would handle Manny in his prime, but again, not a straight forward W. I think Crawford would present Manny with the type of problems he had in Morales 1, and then some.
        I agree with much of what you said which is why I think odh could beat Spence but not manny again given the size difference. Spence has shown good moevement and has taken some solid shots from big ww’s Like brook.

        I just think the length and size would be too much to overcome given that I see Spence and Crawford as special guys.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-26-2018, 05:59 PM.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #224
          Originally posted by djtmal
          Oh so now you know what guy I wanted to win?

          Thats two posts you need to find. Happy digging.

          Floyd picked a good time to fight Shane. When he was on the shelf for a year and a half and already rickety. Outside of the right hand Shane landed, the fight was a dud. You usually come to those type of conclusions after all is said and done.


          I give you 24 hours to dig up those posts. While you at it, finally decide whether floyd was carrying McGregor or not.

          By the way, good job deflecting Floyd ducking Thurman.
          Lmfao. Giving me 24 hours to find posts I didn’t claim you made.

          Asking about Floyd Conor, posting about Floyd Thurman, yet still hasn’t answered the thread topic.

          smdh.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #225
            Originally posted by WesternChamp
            you know what i mean, but if you wanna play ****** then more power to you.
            I actually don't know what you mean.

            What do you mean?

            You are aware what the word "literally" means right?

            If you say he fought literally no one then Erik Morales is one of those included in the "nobody" bracket.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #226
              Originally posted by WesternChamp
              hours between the posts? well, take a look for yourself. there was about a 15-20min gap in between your post, then you started getting whooped on which cause you to start replying back within 3-5min lmao!!


              10:39am, 10:45am, 11:09am, 11:17am, 11:22am, 12:45pm, 12:50pm, 1:26pm, 1:27pm, 1:30pm, 1:33pm, 1:34pm.
              Man I guess time flies Didn't feel like the posts were that close together.

              Fair enough on that one.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #227
                Originally posted by djtmal
                If after I paid my money to watch that garbage you call a fight and label it a cherrypick, so be it.
                What a hilarious new excuse.

                So if a fight is garbage it's suddenly a cherry pick?

                What kind of ******ed logic is that?

                You said he was ducking him and the world wanted to see it and he SHOULD fight him, then after called it a cherry pick.

                You can't rationally or logically do both.

                But you are neither rational or logical in your thinking which I don't know if that's funny or sad.

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                • travestyny
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                  #228
                  Is there a thread that WesternChimp doesn't get beat up in?

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                  • WesternChamp
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                    #229
                    pantherz

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                    • travestyny
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                      #230
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