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  • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
    The tweet that "the Winkel is satisfied" wasn't exactly true. The it took them 4 weeks to accept my offer statement wasn't exactly accurate given that there was negotiation going on for those 4 weeks.

    Hearn doesn't tell bold face lies. He mostly tells half truths that lead people to believe what they want to believe. It's his job to manage public perception so I don't dislike him for it.

    For now, we wait to see if he makes the two requested modifications and gets the contract back to Winkel. If Team Wilder is trying to avoid the fight, Hearn can simply point out that their request was unreasonable and he decided to move on.
    If it wasn't true, then why did Finkle confirm that his 2 questions had been answered?

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    • No Eddie, it is you and your father who didn't want the fight and you should have been more open and honest about it to the fans. You all at least owe us that much since we are the ones who are consuming the service that you provide.

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      • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        No Eddie, it is you and your father who didn't want the fight and you should have been more open and honest about it to the fans. You all at least owe us that much since we are the ones who are consuming the service that you provide.
        If they didn't want the fight why did they send them a contract?

        To try and get out of a fight because you didn't know the location (which they did, it was in Wales, the only place available) is just laughable.

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        • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
          If it wasn't true, then why did Finkle confirm that his 2 questions had been answered?
          I didn't say untrue...
          Satisfied infers that the clarifications provided an agreeable result. He provided the clarifications and it appears that based on those clarifications Winkel requested contract mods.
          Last edited by Ake-Dawg; 06-26-2018, 03:49 PM.

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          • Originally posted by BennyBlanco View Post
            Bottom line: Yesterday Finkel says Eddie will have the contract back by Friday.

            Eddie's response? Panic. He says the offer is off the table and he's moving on to the Povetkin fight.
            Wrong. Finkle was sending the contract back unsigned. He wanted 2 things changed about it before he signs it. So Hearn would have to draw up a new contract and send it back to be signed.

            The WBA have given Hearn 24 hours to make a deal with Povetkin, so no, Hearn hasn't all of a sudden called things off. We all knew the WBA where there in the background so things had to move fast. Finkle obviously was going slow on purpose to force AJ into a fight with Povetkin so he could claim he was ducked when no such thing happened.

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            • Donkey Wilder is very good at stalling, not signing contracts and telling lies.

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              • Originally posted by Falkano View Post
                If they didn't want the fight why did they send them a contract?

                To try and get out of a fight because you didn't know the location (which they did, it was in Wales, the only place available) is just laughable.
                If they really wanted the fight then why would they attempt to low ball Deontay with a 12.5 Million flat-fee which they knew he wasn't going to accept? In addition, why did it take them four long weeks to respond to Deontay Wilder's $50 Million counter offer?

                Likewise, why did it take them a whole week to send over that revised version of the contract after Wilder had agreed to fight them on all their terms? If one would think they were serious, then they would have caught the first red eye flight out of the U.K. And hand delivered that contract to Wilder in person themselves but they didn't do that.

                Why? It's because they didn't really want the fight. Moreover, when Deontay accepted the contract, why did they say that the fight wouldn't take place in September at Wembley because Joshua needed more time to prepare and train for a fight of that magnitude but yet has agreed to fight Povetkin on the same date and venue before sending it to Wilder in that last contract?

                Finally, why did he omit the date and venue of the fight in the last contract to Wilder? Why? It's because he was in secret talks and double dealing with Povetkin's people over those particular details all along. That was the reason for all the delaying and stalling tactics; They were in private negotiations with a third party.

                You fanboys can spin it all you want but what I have just proven to you is that we are dealing with a couple of individuals who has no scruples and that's a fact.

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                • Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
                  It's not complicated enough to be bias, it's real simple.
                  Wilder has the contract and he'll sign or he wont.
                  If you can't see the bias in this article, you're either stupid or another fanboy

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                  • Originally posted by Falkano View Post
                    If they didn't want the fight why did they send them a contract?

                    To try and get out of a fight because you didn't know the location (which they did, it was in Wales, the only place available) is just laughable.
                    Why wouldn’t that be on the contract? And the date? Weird

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                    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                      You're saying Wilder agreed to the new offer within days? You're a liar aren't you? Wilder in fact took 4 weeks to agree to the offer. Stop with the propaganda because anyone with a brain can see through your lies and bull****.
                      What offer did Wilder agree to?

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