Wilder: I talked to AJ. Showed him things Eddie didn't show him. AJ wants the $50 mil

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12/31/2018 wilder vs aj who yall got?

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The guaranteed fight purses for AJ fights on previous occasions have been 15-20 million. What you're suggesting by your logic is that because people don't know what extra money wilder may funnel means it's not out of the way to suggest they take similar .

I truly have no idea how you could read my posts and come to that conclusion. I have stated over and over and over that AJ likely makes 4-5x more per fight than Wilder makes per fight. How you could read that and come to the conclusion that I believe they make a similar amount per fight is mind boggling.

I would feel very comfortable in betting £100 . ( I'm not very well off myself ) in saying Wilders overall worth is not equal to the finances AJ has received as guaranteed purses for Klitschko and Parker put together

If your position is that in AJ's two biggest fights, he earned more than Wilder has earned in his career, that is very possible. However, Laced Up's position was that AJ in one fight earned more than Wilder has earned in his career and that is very unlikely.

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I'm not moving anything. There's a lot of costs inherent with putting on a show, you should understand that. You're a promoter right?

Wilder's fights don't generate 5million dollars. You continue to say I don't know but you don't show any proof of otherwise.

I don't have to prove a negative. You claimed Wilder's fights generate less than 5 million in revenue, despite having no idea if that's true. I don't need to disprove your claim because you never proved your claim to begin with.

As Showtime's biggest attraction, it would stand to reason he receives the largest licensing fees. If Showtime averages a license fee of 3.33 million, it would stand to reason the license fee for a Wilder fight is 4+ million. You've already conceded his gates are 1+ million. Which means the overall revenue already exceeds 5 million before even factoring in other revenue streams.

So your claim that his fights generate less than 5 million in revenue is very likely false. Since it's really just an uneducated amateur guess on your part, it's hilarious that you tried to state it as indisputable fact.

[LacedUp]

I don't have to prove a negative. You claimed Wilder's fights generate less than 5 million in revenue, despite having no idea if that's true. I don't need to disprove your claim because you never proved your claim to begin with.

As Showtime's biggest attraction, it would stand to reason he receives the largest licensing fees. If Showtime averages a license fee of 3.33 million, it would stand to reason the license fee for a Wilder fight is 4+ million. You've already conceded his gates are 1+ million. Which means the overall revenue already exceeds 5 million before even factoring in other revenue streams.

So your claim that his fights generate less than 5 million in revenue is very likely false. Since it's really just an uneducated amateur guess on your part, it's hilarious that you tried to state it as indisputable fact.

You're just guessing

Dude bring facts or just stop. I'm giggling at the way you debate. And even if his last few fights did generate 5million, AJ's last fight generated 50million+ anyway! Wilder only had 3 fights at the barclays.

Watch this fool try to tell me that he generates millions in Alabama too

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I just think you're a silly little boy who's insecure that AJ is an infinitely bigger star than Wilder.

I know you think that, but you've proven repeatedly that your thoughts don't make any sense after considering the facts.

I've stated dozens, if not hundreds, of times on this site that AJ is a much bigger star than Wilder, likely earning 4-5x what Wilder earns, maybe even more.

I don't make a dollar off of either fighter, so there's nothing to be insecure about. I'm an AJ fan and have been rooting for him since the Olympics.

That doesn't change the fact that his promoter, who is a GREAT promoter, publicly lies incessantly. As he should. You can't be a great promoter otherwise. For some reason you take that as an insult. As a fellow promoter, I consider it praise.

As for my age, that is something that can be very easily verified. I've already told you I'm in my 30s. If you really believe I'm a teenager, put your money where your mouth is and let's place a wager. If you want to know how old I am, make it worth my while.

[LacedUp]

I know you think that, but you've proven repeatedly that your thoughts don't make any sense after considering the facts.

I've stated dozens, if not hundreds, of times on this site that AJ is a much bigger star than Wilder, likely earning 4-5x what Wilder earns, maybe even more.

I don't make a dollar off of either fighter, so there's nothing to be insecure about. I'm an AJ fan and have been rooting for him since the Olympics.

That doesn't change the fact that his promoter, who is a GREAT promoter, publicly lies incessantly. As he should. You can't be a great promoter otherwise. For some reason you take that as an insult. As a fellow promoter, I consider it praise.

As for my age, that is something that can be very easily verified. I've already told you I'm in my 30s. If you really believe I'm a teenager, put your money where your mouth is and let's place a wager. If you want to know how old I am, make it worth my while.

I already gave you the hexa address And you ducked that like a *****.

Please kid just stop. You're embarrassing.

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Oh I’m sorry then there was the super 6 tournament where Carl Froch went to the L column to none other than Andre Ward yet another tournament the US won this is too easy. Shall we open up Mayweather into this discussion as well?

Looked through my posts for the list of Brits beating Americans so I could copy and paste but I can't find it. So i'll have to write it out again. Here it is...


Lennox Lewis: Grant, Holyfield x2, Briggs, Rahman, Tyson, Mercer, Morrison, McCall and Tucker.

David Haye: Ruiz.

Frank Bruno: McCall.

Michael Bentt: Morrison

AJ: Brezeale and Martin.

Joe Calzaghe: Brewer, Mitchell, Sheika, Lacy, Hopkins and Jones.

Carl Froch: Taylor and Dirrell.

Nigel Benn: Williams, Dewitt, Barkley, Sims and McClellan.

Chris Eubank: Holmes.

James Degale: Dirrell.

Kell Brook: Porter.

Lloyd Honeyghan: Curry and Blocker.

Amir Khan: Judah, Alexander, Malignaggi, Collazo and Peterson (Robbery).

Ricky Hatton: Philips, Collazo and Malignaggi.

Junior Witter: Corley and Harris.

Naseem Hamed: Johnson, Kelley and Sanchez.

Lee Selby: Hunter.

Paul Ingle: Junior Jones.

Terry Flanagan: Magdaleno.

That is 49 wins we have over you over the last 40 years. The list of Americans beating Brits over the same period won't match that. But try anyway, yeah?

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Looked through my posts for the list of Brits beating Americans so I could copy and paste but I can't find it. So i'll have to write it out again. Here it is...


Lennox Lewis: Grant, Holyfield x2, Briggs, Rahman, Tyson, Mercer, Morrison, McCall and Tucker.

David Haye: Ruiz.

Frank Bruno: McCall.

Michael Bentt: Morrison

AJ: Brezeale and Martin.

Joe Calzaghe: Brewer, Mitchell, Sheika, Lacy, Hopkins and Jones.

Carl Froch: Taylor and Dirrell.

Nigel Benn: Williams, Dewitt, Barkley, Sims and McClellan.

Chris Eubank: Holmes.

James Degale: Dirrell.

Kell Brook: Porter.

Lloyd Honeyghan: Curry and Blocker.

Amir Khan: Judah, Alexander, Malignaggi, Collazo and Peterson (Robbery).

Ricky Hatton: Philips, Collazo and Malignaggi.

Junior Witter: Corley and Harris.

Naseem Hamed: Johnson, Kelley and Sanchez.

Lee Selby: Hunter.

Paul Ingle: Junior Jones.

Terry Flanagan: Magdaleno.

That is 49 wins we have over you over the last 40 years. The list of Americans beating Brits over the same period won't match that. But try anyway, yeah?

That's quite the gauntlet to chuck down... It'll be interesting to see the reply if one comes.

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That's quite the gauntlet to chuck down... It'll be interesting to see the reply if one comes.

His reply will be nothing but comical. Haha.

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Dude bring facts or just stop. I'm giggling at the way you debate. And even if his last few fights did generate 5million, AJ's last fight generated 50million+ anyway! Wilder only had 3 fights at the barclays.

Moving the goal posts again. You said his fights don't generate 5 million. Now you realize that's probably not true, so you're trying to change the subject.