Wilder: I talked to AJ. Showed him things Eddie didn't show him. AJ wants the $50 mil

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Yes local tv rights, not international. It's hardly a needle mover, especially for Deontay Wilder who's not a star in america or anywhere else.

He is Showtime's biggest star. Showtime's 2017 boxing budget was reported at 40 million. Meaning Showtime paid an average of over 3 million per event. With Wilder's events being Showtime's most important, it's very likely the license fee is 4+ million. Throw in the 1+ million gate you already conceded and that means his events are generating over 5 million before you even factor in international TV, sponsorship, merchandise, etc.

You keep refusing to answer whether Cotto was really only paid 700k for his retirement fight.

[LacedUp]

He is Showtime's biggest star. Showtime's 2017 boxing budget was reported at 40 million. Meaning Showtime paid an average of over 3 million per event. With Wilder's events being Showtime's most important, it's very likely the license fee is 4+ million. Throw in the 1+ million gate you already conceded and that means his events are generating over 5 million before you even factor in international TV, sponsorship, merchandise, etc.

You keep refusing to answer whether Cotto was really only paid 700k for his retirement fight.

Yeah then you have to factor in security, set up, rental of arena, the undercard oh and we can’t forget about showtimes cut either..

He may crack 2m on average these days. But it still means Joshua made more in his last fight than Wilder did in his entire career.

Don’t be sad. It’s just true.

[LacedUp]

Of course. So if we have no idea what either guy is making, why should we make concrete declarations that we couldn't possibly know if they're true or not?

When Laced Up says AJ made more money in his last fight than Wilder has made in his life, Laced Up literally has no clue if that statement is true or not.

So he should be rightfully called out when he states, as fact, things he doesn't actually know.

Let’s put it this way then, Joshua’s last fight generated more than Wilders entire career and since AJ takes home 80% you can do the math 🤷🏼*♂️

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Let’s put it this way then, Joshua’s last fight generated more than Wilders entire career

Very unlikely. So you shouldn't be definitively stating things you a) can't possibly know and b) aren't very likely.

Wilder has been a top attraction for Showtime for several years now. AJ obviously makes a lot more than Wilder, maybe even 4-5 times as much, which should be enough for you. Sticking to the facts would still make AJ look very good. But you can't help yourself. Hearn has you so brainwashed that you resort to hyperbolics that likely aren't true.

[yammy25]

Of course. So if we have no idea what either guy is making, why should we make concrete declarations that we couldn't possibly know if they're true or not?

When Laced Up says AJ made more money in his last fight than Wilder has made in his life, Laced Up literally has no clue if that statement is true or not.

So he should be rightfully called out when he states, as fact, things he doesn't actually know.

You cannot operate in a field or pure black and white yet enjoy the luxury of completely disregarding any form of logic or reason.

The guaranteed fight purses for AJ fights on previous occasions have been 15-20 million. What you're suggesting by your logic is that because people don't know what extra money wilder may funnel means it's not out of the way to suggest they take similar . It absolutely is insane to say this.

Wilder does not receive an extra..non documented slice of pie that brings his total revenue received close to AJ when his fights don't generate Joshua's guaranteed purses for all those involved.. be that showtime..haymon..obviously etc.

Come on now. I know you like facts.. and without facts you pour scorn on the ideas of others. But to suggest that the two may not be far apart financially based on some secret Wilder money is lunacy. Now.. I will be fair.. and state Wilders true worth is probably closer to double his reported.

I would feel very comfortable in betting £100 . ( I'm not very well off myself ) in saying Wilders overall worth is not equal to the finances AJ has received as guaranteed purses for Klitschko and Parker put together.. leaving out his earnings for takam.

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Yeah then you have to factor in security, set up, rental of arena, the undercard oh and we can’t forget about showtimes cut either..

Showtime's cut? WTF are you talking about? Showtime pays a license fee to air the fight in the US and Showtime makes their money from monthly subscribers. Showtime isn't taking a cut of anything. This just shows how little understanding you have of the economics.

You are the one that said Wilder's fight didn't generate 5 million in overall revenue. Now that you're realizing you're probably wrong, you're trying to move the goal posts.

[Sid-Knee]

I told your troll a$$ to fire away but you refuse like the good little troll you are but here we are again at square one. However in your little fantasy land titles mean nothing and it’s quite obvious who totally owns the UK in titles yet you wish to parse I’m vs us head to head. Last tournament I recall was in 07 (contender) and that’s the only head to head in recent time that’s occurred and guess what? I’ll let you go look it up but head to head in tournament style US topped the UK so go dance off now

Oh dear, you really are a complete moron aren't you? You're the one who made an outlandish claim, so it's on you to back it up. I asked you give me all the Americans who have beaten Brits over the last 40 years and you've come back with nothing. If you could back it up, you would have by now. But you can't because i'd prove you wrong.

I never said titles mean nothing. I said we don't go by which country has won more titles in history to prove who wins fights between the 2 of us most of the time. There's a big difference. But you're obviously too dim to understand that.


The contender? A TV show? What are you talking about? I'm talking about fights that are professionally sanctioned between the 2 of us. And yet you can't come back with anything other than ******ity.


I'll post all the wins over Americans in your next ****** post and we'll take it from there.

[LacedUp]

Very unlikely. So you shouldn't be definitively stating things you a) can't possibly know and b) aren't very likely.

Wilder has been a top attraction for Showtime for several years now. AJ obviously makes a lot more than Wilder, maybe even 4-5 times as much, which should be enough for you. Sticking to the facts would still make AJ look very good. But you can't help yourself. Hearn has you so brainwashed that you resort to hyperbolics that likely aren't true.

Yeah, the Parker fight has been named the second highest PPV fight ever in britain with 1.1m buys at 27/pop ~30m from one TV station plus 10m at the gate.

Then you add PPV in New Zealand, of course we can't forget about showtime either who pay a good dime to show Joshua and of course everything else.

No I don't think I'm brainwashed. I just think you're a silly little boy who's insecure that AJ is an infinitely bigger star than Wilder.

AJs last fight definitely generated more than Wilder's entire career For Wilder's only vegas fight he couldn't crack 7 figures

[LacedUp]

Showtime's cut? WTF are you talking about? Showtime pays a license fee to air the fight in the US and Showtime makes their money from monthly subscribers. Showtime isn't taking a cut of anything. This just shows how little understanding you have of the economics.

You are the one that said Wilder's fight didn't generate 5 million in overall revenue. Now that you're realizing you're probably wrong, you're trying to move the goal posts.

I'm not moving anything. There's a lot of costs inherent with putting on a show, you should understand that. You're a promoter right?

Wilder's fights don't generate 5million dollars. You continue to say I don't know but you don't show any proof of otherwise.

And that's why neither me or anything else takes you seriously.

[LacedUp]

You cannot operate in a field or pure black and white yet enjoy the luxury of completely disregarding any form of logic or reason.

The guaranteed fight purses for AJ fights on previous occasions have been 15-20 million. What you're suggesting by your logic is that because people don't know what extra money wilder may funnel means it's not out of the way to suggest they take similar . It absolutely is insane to say this.

Wilder does not receive an extra..non documented slice of pie that brings his total revenue received close to AJ when his fights don't generate Joshua's guaranteed purses for all those involved.. be that showtime..haymon..obviously etc.

Come on now. I know you like facts.. and without facts you pour scorn on the ideas of others. But to suggest that the two may not be far apart financially based on some secret Wilder money is lunacy. Now.. I will be fair.. and state Wilders true worth is probably closer to double his reported.

I would feel very comfortable in betting £100 . ( I'm not very well off myself ) in saying Wilders overall worth is not equal to the finances AJ has received as guaranteed purses for Klitschko and Parker put together.. leaving out his earnings for takam.

He doesn't like facts. He's just insecure about AJs star power. That's all it is.

Typical fanboy.