Haters

[theironone]

Sanders beat him cos he thought he would walk through him, not mentally ready for the fight and weak chin got him beat.
Brewster was another so called gimme, he dominates for a few rounds then gets stopped again, again not mentally ready for the fight he was in and weak chin, ( oh **** sorry that was the drugs!!!) now after being stopped 3 times out of 3 losses and two recently and early i'd say that some of his weaknesses are chin, lack of mental toughness and most obvious to me a huge lack of confidence in his own abilty to take a shot.
You think when manny's telling him to do train a certain way if he didn't feel comfortable with it he'd allow it to continue??? Would you!
Come on man you got to be a fool to allow that.
So again i'd say manny is only a very minor influence, i'd say it's down to him being exposed more as a fighter rather than let's all blame Steward

[LuKahnLi]

The way Toney fights.....he is a genius at it. He couldn't fight like Lewis because it doesn't suit him. ACtually Toney is a better boxer for what he does than Lennox Lewis. Lewis used his height and reach to their fullest effect which I don't fault him for, but there isn't much skill involved in that. Toney, stands there for his opponents to hit them, but manages not to get hit. He also deals out tremendous punishment in the process. THAT is what being a master fighter is. Dealing out the maximum amount of damage while taking next to none yourself.

[Neuraxis]

For some reason you think Im this huge Toney fan just because I think he doeserved more credit than some, like you, were willing to give him after his last fight. I like Toney and I like to see him fight, but hes not my favorite fighter or anything. If he was getting KOed by guys like Brewster and Sanders I would say he sucks too.

Then you should know better that beating Booker doesn't mean anything and it was pretty much a wasted fight that someone as old as Toney should not be wasting what little time he has left.

[Explosivo]

Then you should know better that beating Booker doesn't mean anything and it was pretty much a wasted fight that someone as old as Toney should not be wasting what little time he has left.

He just came back from a serious injury and dominated! I dont think he should be the champ now and I tend to think that his #1 ranking after the fight isnt merited, but I gave him credit for fighting a good 12 rounds and dominating his opponent aftet an injury.

[LuKahnLi]

Toney started at 154, stands at 5'11 and is fighting heavyweights. He deserves credit for that alone.

[Neuraxis]

He just came back from a serious injury and dominated! I dont think he should be the champ now and I tend to think that his #1 ranking after the fight isnt merited, but I gave him credit for fighting a good 12 rounds and dominating his opponent aftet an injury.

Well that's why I assume that you are diehard Toney fan because even the casual Toney fan realized that the only Booker fight accomplished was to see if Toney's achillies were healed. And it turns out that they are.

[Dr Cynical]

What I want to know is how the **** can you say something like Tyson would have KOed him in one round when NO ONE has been able to KO this guy!! You just cant say **** like that because no precident has been set.

Before you go any further about no one being able to KO Booker, please check out Booker's record and check the records of the guys he fought prior to Toney.

He's a bum who fought bigger bums.
That's why he was undefeated.

Toney really should have looked better out there.
He appeared tired in the middle of the match, took till the 8th round to get Booker to take a knee, then couldn't shake him after that.
Then to top it all off, Toney hurt himself with a bum.

So why should I respect or give credit to Toney?

Don't bring in his past accomplishments because those are in the past.
Why should I respect him for what he's done now?

[Dr Cynical]

I agree Tyson would have hurt him too, but Im just saying you cant say he would KO him until we have something to compare it to.

Current Tyson could KO Booker.
There's no questioning it.
Booker is a bum who fought lesser bums then went the full 12 with Toney and even injured Toney.

[Dr Cynical]

ppl please, we are here cuz we love boxing and we are fans of the sport. There will be always ppl that hate some and love some fighters...I dont hate guys like Cinical and Jack_my_***** cuz they hate Tito...Just LOL at them and say **** IT!!!

lol It must have made you very happy to see me give Trinidad credit for his win against Mayorga.

I don't like Trinidad, but I won't deny him the credit he deserves.

(RJJ would never get that out of me)

[Dr Cynical]

Winter, what you may not understand is that there is a difference in class between the Wlad's and the De La Hoya, Tony, and Trinidads of the world. Wlad is not a great fighter and still has a lot to prove. If I was to give Wlad credit, what would it be for? He beat Byrd a long time ago, in his last 3 fights he was KOed twice and from what I heard looked like crap last weekend against a no name fighter. So I dont know what kind of credit you think anyone should give to Wlad right now.

Toney was a good fighter.. in the past.
So what should I give him credit for now?