Was Canelo on the juice for the first fight?

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  • TonyGe
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    #51
    Originally posted by Elroy The Great
    hold on now...you think nelo needed an edge to beat smith ?!?!?! LIAM SMITH ?!?!?!



    he went THE DISTANCE with some 2-37 BUM right after his nelo fight !!!!

    i dont know what youre implying with the no testing stuff. for me, until i see a failed test, theyre all clean (even pac).


    ..........assuming shlt

    imho
    Canelo avoiding drug testing for this fight is very su****ious. This was the first fight in quite a while that he fought at the JM limit. I think
    He agreed to the limit instead of the catchweight he usually fights at because of public ridicule. I think he needed help (Clen) to make the weight. So yeah he needed help not to beat Smith but to get down to 154 pounds.

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    • kafkod
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      #52
      Originally posted by stealthradon
      His argument is that you need to prove that a fighter couldn't win the fight without peds, in order for peds to prove an effect.

      And since none of those killed in the ring, have been proven to be on peds, peds don't work.
      That's an idiotic argument. PEDs have been proven to have a significant effect on performance in many controlled experiments. To say they haven't been proven to help boxers win boxing matches - because a boxing match is not a controlled experiment - is insane.

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      • WesternChamp
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        #53
        so is canelo still training to mexico?? or will his entire camp be in san diego this time?

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        • HURTFEELINGS
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          #54
          I dont understand why he took PED tests in the first place, Manny didnt take them, as he moved up in weight and gained power and conditioning and his fans didnt care, or maybe GGG is just trying to stall the fight.......Oh my bad

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          • 'b'
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            #55
            As much crap as I have given Canelo, it probably was just tainted meat, as the amounts were apparently consistent with contamination and it happened to be the one substance that is found in meat in mexico.

            That's me being unbiased. If he popped for anything else or if it were in larger amounts then yeah, I'd say he was.

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            • WesternChamp
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              #56
              Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS
              I dont understand why he took PED tests in the first place, Manny didnt take them, as he moved up in weight and gained power and conditioning and his fans didnt care, or maybe GGG is just trying to stall the fight.......Oh my bad
              he should have just paid the testers like Floyd did. Juice up with no worry.

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              • SUBZER0ED
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                #57
                Who knows? He didn't fail the drug test for the first fight. If his physique is vastly smaller and less ripped than before, that would be most interesting. If he performs significantly poorly in the rematch & Golovkin easily starches his ass, it will be hard to say that he wasn't dirty for the first fight.

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                • Smash
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                  #58
                  id say quite a few top guys are juicing in one way or another, thats why they all need to get on the testing asap, peds make a big difference, otherwise noone would use them

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                  • Elroy The Great
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    You didn't forget them .. they were never announced. Canelo stopped revealing his fight night weights after the Kirkland fight.

                    In other words - when he won the WBC MW title and started trying to pretend that he wasn't really a MW.
                    i guess we will have to make due with the ronnie shields eye test

                    hes been using this technique to spot roiders FOR YEARS

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                    • Elroy The Great
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by TonyGe
                      Canelo avoiding drug testing for this fight is very su****ious. This was the first fight in quite a while that he fought at the JM limit. I think
                      He agreed to the limit instead of the catchweight he usually fights at because of public ridicule. I think he needed help (Clen) to make the weight. So yeah he needed help not to beat Smith but to get down to 154 pounds.
                      and no one makes weight naturally..............

                      making assumptions, doe

                      im just glad liam survived his battle with mr 2-37 AKA BUM DELUXE

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