Was Canelo on the juice for the first fight?

[4truth]

That's an idiotic argument. PEDs have been proven to have a significant effect on performance in many controlled experiments. To say they haven't been proven to help boxers win boxing matches - because a boxing match is not a controlled experiment - is insane.

I’ve stopped responding to that argument, if it can even be called an argument. Anyone who says that is either not serious, just trolling, or if serious, just ******. Either way it’s a time waster responding

[jmrf4435]

His neck is what did it for me, his neck was massive, and he had huge delts, traps, even his head looked huge lol

Exactly, his neck looked 3 inches bigger, stumpy little dude

[_Rexy_]

Exactly, his neck looked 3 inches bigger, stumpy little dude

I'd also love to see a list of guys that have gone from JWW to SMW over ten years and see how many of those are suspect.

adding 25lbs of solid muscle onto a 5'9 frame as a boxer (highly aerobic) is pretty ****ing near impossible

Holyfield went from LHW to HW (175-205) and people were screaming steroids, and guess what, he was on a ****load of steroids to gain that 30lbs!

(and remember I said muscle, lots of guys (ODLH off the top of my head) moved up and looked soft. Oscar looked hella soft at MW. but Canelo looks more ripped each weight class he goes up)

[The plunger man]

you cant assume a person is guilty or that they are/were guilty at any given time just to suit a need/agenda

fights fans should either be all in or all out when it comes to test results

shut up you nappy wearing fanboy....he failed a ped test two times and was clearly aided by peds just look at the weigh in photos gumbo.....when he boxed smith he was 154lb and not an ounce of fat and 4 months later he was 164lb against chavez twice as big and agian not an ounce of fat.....its a physical impossibilty to gain 10lbs of natural muscle and no fat without the help of peds to do it.

[_Rexy_]

shut up you nappy wearing fanboy....he failed a ped test two times and was clearly aided by peds just look at the weigh in photos gumbo.....when he boxed smith he was 154lb and not an ounce of fat and 4 months later he was 164lb against chavez twice as big and agian not an ounce of fat.....its a physical impossibilty to gain 10lbs of natural muscle and no fat without the help of peds to do it.

people acting like James Toney moving up in weight and Canelo moving up in weight are the same thing

[The plunger man]

I'd also love to see a list of guys that have gone from JWW to SMW over ten years and see how many of those are suspect.

adding 25lbs of solid muscle onto a 5'9 frame as a boxer (highly aerobic) is pretty ****ing near impossible

Holyfield went from LHW to HW (175-205) and people were screaming steroids, and guess what, he was on a ****load of steroids to gain that 30lbs!

(and remember I said muscle, lots of guys (ODLH off the top of my head) moved up and looked soft. Oscar looked hella soft at MW. but Canelo looks more ripped each weight class he goes up)

Your right m8 its impossible.
When canelo boxed liam smith he was 154lb and zero fat and then 4 months later he came in 164lb against chavez with again zero fat......its not possible for a clean atlete to do that and remember boxing is a highly active calory sport so you actually burn most of the calories yiu actually consume.
He has been cheating the system and golden boy have covered up alot of dirty stuff

[_Rexy_]

Your right m8 its impossible.
When canelo boxed liam smith he was 154lb and zero fat and then 4 months later he came in 164lb against chavez with again zero fat......its not possible for a clean atlete to do that and remember boxing is a highly active calory sport so you actually burn most of the calories yiu actually consume.
He has been cheating the system and golden boy have covered up alot of dirty stuff

not to mention his gift decisions too. Byrd shouldn't have been on the panel for the GGG match after the scorecard she submitted in the Mayweather match.


EDIT - nvmd. For some reason I confused Byrd with CJ Ross. Women just love the ginger.

EDIT EDIT - just noticed who you were, I think this is the first time we've ever agreed

[MDPopescu]

shut up you nappy wearing fanboy....he failed a ped test two times and was clearly aided by peds just look at the weigh in photos gumbo.....when he boxed smith he was 154lb and not an ounce of fat and 4 months later he was 164lb against chavez twice as big and agian not an ounce of fat.....its a physical impossibilty to gain 10lbs of natural muscle and no fat without the help of peds to do it.

... tbh, I don't even know if Canelo is that intelligent to actually understand what ODLH actually did to him... (i.e. he turned him into some sort of a GMO experiment)...

[bambam182]

The ducking boys ladies and gentlemen

[Elroy The Great]

shut up you nappy wearing fanboy....he failed a ped test two times and was clearly aided by peds just look at the weigh in photos gumbo.....when he boxed smith he was 154lb and not an ounce of fat and 4 months later he was 164lb against chavez twice as big and agian not an ounce of fat.....its a physical impossibilty to gain 10lbs of natural muscle and no fat without the help of peds to do it.

2 in the same month, goober....i know the whole sob story you cvnts keep crying over.

everyone else moved on
youre like those fight fans who still scream about may vs jlc