Comments Thread For: Ward: What More Does Crawford Have to Do to Be P4P Number 1?

[5000boxing]

If he cleans out 147 he will be TBE! Crawford was undisputed at 140.. that made him the only number 2 to ward.. but when ward retired Crawford became number 1. I also moved Lomachenko up to number 2 when he took all my money against rigo and linares.. so I must show respect there.. now with that being said.. I still think both are very accomplished but are in very dangerous waters.. Crawford is in a deep division with some dangerous champs.. Thurman and Spence respectfully.. and Loma has to definitely keep his eye on Mikey!

[Dreamking]

Crawford needs to beat Spence to be #1.
BUT If Loma beats Mikey first he'll cement himself as #1.

[markther]

Beltran was a better win than Molina. So was Diaz and so was Indongo because he held the WBA/IBF titles and was unbeaten. Burns was also a better win.

I do agree the top of Loma's resume is better though. Those 4 wins trump Bud's but people have tended to underrate the Postol and Gamboa wins. He was a 2-1 underdog against Gamboa.

Strong points but I have Molina Jr as the better win based on his own opposition. Besides being a 65% knock artist, he came into the Crawford fight with a win over Ruslan Provodnikov who had a great fight against Timothy Bradley in his career. Molina also went the distance with Broner, Soto, and nearly the distance with Matthysse.

[hitking]

Crawford needs to go Sammy Sosa and bleach his skin. Then he can lose to a journeyman and get dropped by a bum. And still have folks screaming he’s #1.

[Hmabshir]

Lmao ward is talking out his ass.

Crawford isn’t higher than Canelo or golovkin. Jeff horn was a ****ing bum, a bum. If anybody thinks horn was a good fighter go drink bleach. He was a easy fight for an easy title.

P4p is still open but Lomachenko is #1 for taking out Linares in an exciting match
Golovkin Canelo both #2 and then Crawford #3

Winner of cinnamon and borat #2 is the p4p champion.

Crawford needs to beat Garcia,Porter,Thurman and Spence for that spot but only Spence will probably fight him.

[Smash]

S.O.G. took #1 P4P when B-Hop lost to kovalev & Floyd retired, rightfully so too.

they wrapped it up and sent that p4p no1 fedex!

[boxing90]

Crawford beat Jeff Horn a guy who was given a gift.

[chrisJS]

Took 11 years to figure this out? hah!

Seriously, how about Crawford beats Spence or even Thurman. He looks great I agree but until he beats either of these there will always be questions about his comp. Same as Golovkin, even though I think he did beat both Jacobs & Canelo pretty clearly. 8-4 or 7-5 if being generous.

1 - Loma
2 - Crawford
3 - Golovkin

Top 2 deserve higher marks simply 'cause they've moved up even though Golovkin has maintained his dominance for longer & never even been wobbled let alone knocked down. You know I could always argue that contenders/champs weren't willing to get in the ring against GGG when was younger, but we still can only grade on what actually has happened, not on the what if's.

That's my top three in that order. People often tend to get too caught up in "resume" like for example a hall of famer on your resume is better than mainly just a guy who's on great form. Example Mosley (for Canelo) being a better win than Kessler (for Calzaghe). I value a few things in p4p - skill and talent level i.e - how I feel they'd do with other p4p guys, dominance, accomplishments and also resume. P4P is supposed to mean "if all were equal size who's the best" not who has the better resume. That's end of career evaluations. Gamboa and Postol were excellent wins and helped him clean out two divisions and he's dominated everyone so he really couldn't do any more. Now at 147 if politics doesn't play a part he has a real chance to be a truly historical fighter when we evaluate him after his career.

Golovkin has dominance, some nice accomplishments (tied most KO's in title bouts, tied most 160 title defenses) and has held multiple portions of the title. His competition had been mostly average (it was the best available) and now he's fought two elite guys and IMO (in any fair opinion) he beat both clearly enough. I feel he's not only less skilled/talented than the top two he's also a little past his best whilst they are entering their primes and I think their achievements are better too despite not being tested against someone as high quality as Canelo.

[TravisPythagora]

Crawford was already p4p. Before Horn, before Indongo. Cut the resume b.s. out. Its others peoples p4p list. They can have who they want. Its not a resume list. Aint nobody beating down Bud's door. Aint nobody calling him out for a fight(except Jean, Diaz), or less they want a payday(Benavidez). Its who has the most skill, who looks the best, and who you think would win if these mofos actually fought. Nobody wants to fight this cat

[jackblack008]

Lol. brotha backing a brotha. What has he done till now? Whom has he defeated. Let him dance with Danny Garcia, or Spence or Thurman, then we would see.


Thurman would give him a boxing lesson