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  • #11
    He is arguably not even the top guy at 147. How about he establishes that and we'll talk?

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    • #12
      beating a world class fighter would be a good start.... theres plenty of them at 147.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
        I don't see how ESPN ranks Golovkin above him.
        I agree. That's crazy to me. Ring has GGG at #1. I just can't see how anyone is above Crawford and Lomachenko currently.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
          I don't see how ESPN ranks Golovkin above him.
          His wins over Canelo and Jacobs are better than anyone Crawford has beaten. Crawford has dominated two divisions and just won a title in a third.

          It's close between the two, could go either way.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Smash View Post
            In other words, hey they handed me p4p no1 so why not crawford too?? What gives here?? world no1 is ezeeee
            S.O.G. took #1 P4P when B-Hop lost to kovalev & Floyd retired, rightfully so too.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
              He has to beat somebody good. Horn is ok win, but Horn is just a guy that got a gift decision against past prime Manny.

              Horn`s resume is ****. I mean Thurman with wins against Porter and Garcia has better resume.
              Jeff Horn has a BETTER resume than lil g & they put lil g in there! Jeff beat Manny up & he beat Randall Bailey. lil g lost to Jacobs & Nelo!

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              • #17
                Ward, “He should be the guy that fought the best competition and has beaten the best competition over an (extended period of time).“

                Looking at both Lomo’s & Crawford’s key opponents, who had the stronger competition Ward?


                Lomo’s (3 division champion)

                Best Wins:
                Linares
                Russell
                Walters
                Rigondeaux


                Crawford’s (3 division champion)

                Best Wins:
                Gamboa
                Postol
                Molina Jr.
                Horn

                GGG (1 division champion)

                Best Wins:
                Murray
                Lemieux
                Jacobs
                Brook

                Alvarez (3 division champion)

                Best Wins:
                Mosley
                Lara
                Cotto
                Khan


                Based on Ward’s own criteria, my pick is Lomo, but it would have been Alvarez if he didn’t get suspended.....
                Last edited by markther; 06-12-2018, 12:27 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Drama Show View Post
                  beating a world class fighter would be a good start.... theres plenty of them at 147.
                  Postol and Gamboa were world class. No amount of revisionist history will change this. Great fighters? No. World class. Yes. They tick the boxes.

                  It would appear you and some other GGG fans have really got it in for Crawford. Is it because of a resentment for what some people who may like Crawford said about GGG's competition? Golovkin's competition outside of Canelo and Jacobs is far more limited and flat out just inferior to Crawford's. Even Jacobs wasn't held in quite as high esteem as Gamboa and Postol for example and Jacobs was a close fight and those two were dominant and stylish victories for Bud.

                  You know I give Golovkin more credit than the pathetic haters but fair is fair. Both men have unique accomplishments. Crawford has cleaned out two divisions, unified all belts in one and taken a few 0's off respected fighters and Golovkin has the KO streak and title defenses but overall Crawford is more impressive on a pound for pound scale.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by The Smash View Post
                    His wins over Canelo and Jacobs are better than anyone Crawford has beaten. Crawford has dominated two divisions and just won a title in a third.

                    It's close between the two, could go either way.
                    Golovkin didn't beat Canelo. He doesn't hold a win over him.

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                    • #20
                      IDK, but beating Horn and several other stiffs doesn't cut it.

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