Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Manager: Whyte Never Wanted To Fight Us, Too Risky

[Kezzer]

Enough of the wilder fanboys ****e.

Let's talk about the matchup. It's a cracking fight and whoever wins will be the "best of the rest" status for sure. Who will win? Well the bookies have Parker a slight favourite, I'm really not sure. A Whyte win would be interesting as it would probably force a matchup with AJ once again, while a Parker win could well see him as a front runner for Wilder?

Some big fights now happening, if Joshua Povetkin is also confirmed it falls on Wilder to pull out a big name, hopefully he won't settle for Brezeale but there aren't many other options to honest. Time will tell.

[LacedUp]

Any Link??? For this WBC statement??

https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ort...rdered--127502

Read it and weep kid...����

The winner would’ve became MANDATORY.

Idiot.

Yeah I'm the idiot. Have you been living under a rock or what?

WBC have ordered Brezeale as the mandatory. Google "second mandatory"

Mate, when I was a kid you were still in your dad's sack. Don't go there.

[LacedUp]

Finish high school���� I’m a qualified teacher, but I digress.

So Parker having a full camp to prepare whilst his opponent only had a few weeks is more beneficial to who exactly???

So your absurd point that Parker’s lacklustre decision win over Cojanu is in some way excused due to him “only having a weeks notice” is frankly ridiculous.

As I said, it ain’t hard to comprehend kid, but then again, maybe it is for deluded people like you����

Show me your diploma then. I hope this is not the level of intelligence you are teaching the future.

It's not ridiculous. Cojanu was his main sparring partner.

You don't understand boxing, but go back in history. I remember when RJJ (my favourite fighter) was fighting his sparring partner Lou Del Valle, and ended up getting dropped and looked bad.

That was RJJ in his prime with a full camp ffs. Cojanu had been in Parker's whole camp, it's not like he was fat and out of shape.

You just have no context of any of this, because you're a boxrec warrior.

[Fire4231]

Enough of the wilder fanboys ****e.

Let's talk about the matchup. It's a cracking fight and whoever wins will be the "best of the rest" status for sure. Who will win? Well the bookies have Parker a slight favourite, I'm really not sure. A Whyte win would be interesting as it would probably force a matchup with AJ once again, while a Parker win could well see him as a front runner for Wilder?

Some big fights now happening, if Joshua Povetkin is also confirmed it falls on Wilder to pull out a big name, hopefully he won't settle for Brezeale but there aren't many other options to honest. Time will tell.

With all the competive fights out there for AJ why would we get excited about seeing Whyte or Parker rematch him?

That’s the obvious problem with this match up it is a figurative “road to no where.” Let’s set up yet another fight AJ is guaranteed to win. Why... because he just beat both of these guys and nothing has really changed to make us believe things will be any different.

This is just some BS to give AJ a safe path for the next two to three very winnable fights.

[Fire4231]

Yeah you don’t know anything about boxing.

Ortiz was about to be mandatory but failed a drug test and lost his shot. Whyte called him out for years, to say he’s scared of him is absolutely delusional.

Ortiz hasn’t done anything amateur pro to make anyone duck him. He’s either lost or looked like dog **** every time he stepped up.

Ortiz was about to be a Mandatory? Did you even look at the link idiot. Whyte didn’t suck Ortiz? Did you even read this article Mr. Laced Front? Or do just get off on making **** up. You might as well end every sentence with a childish “because I said so.” Laced Front clearly has no facts.

[LacedUp]

Ortiz was about to be a Mandatory? Did you even look at the link idiot. Whyte didn’t suck Ortiz? Did you even read this article Mr. Laced Front? Or do just get off on making **** up. You might as well end every sentence with a childish “because I said so.” Laced Front clearly has no facts.

Yes to the WBA title in early 2017. Don't understand the rest of your post but good luck.

[Kezzer]

The winner of Parker and Whyte will solidify #3 in the world with most and for both fighters is as tough as a fight as they could have made at this stage so kudos to both of them. With Joshua wilder looming even being manadatory would likely mean nothing next couple of years as if they fight twice that absorbs a year, then having four belts is unsustainable so winner will be dropping some anyways

With all the competive fights out there for AJ why would we get excited about seeing Whyte or Parker rematch him?

That’s the obvious problem with this match up it is a figurative “road to no where.” Let’s set up yet another fight AJ is guaranteed to win. Why... because he just beat both of these guys and nothing has really changed to make us believe things will be any different.

This is just some BS to give AJ a safe path for the next two to three very winnable fights.

AJ hasn’t taken an easy path yet so I have no reason to believe he will do so. I don’t anticipate a rematch with either fighting happening immediately, although if Whyte wins then the appetite could well bring it forward.

Joshua will clearly has a number of big fights, dependent on obviously if he keeps winning and results of others I can see him fighting Povetkin, Wilder, Ortiz, Fury, Joyce and Whyte rematch over the next 3 years.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by SinderellaMan View Post
They need to quit with the rigged 7th round & saving Wilder garbage. Wilder was robbed of a knockdown in the early rounds.
If they fight again, Ortiz goes to sleep albeit without the muddied perception that he “won the fight”.
Ridiculous especially given that Wilder didn’t have to fight him in the first place

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
It isn't garbage. It just makes Wilder fans uncomfortable to hear reality. It happened. Deal with it. If Wilder is so great, let him prove himself with an Ortiz rematch.

How about AJ fight Ortiz then? Why does AJ get to duck everybody who doesn’t feel like a sure win? No Wilder no Ortiz but he will fight Povetkin who was stopped in five by the guy he beat?

You act like Wilder didn’t just knock Ortiz out. Yes...It was a great fight but Wilder destroyed him in the end. AJ struggled agains Vlad in the exact same way yet we all defended AJ’s performance.

Truth is Hearn is too financially cowardly to place AJ in the ring with Ortiz or Wilder. Wilder has just beat Ortiz who was at least the 3rd best heavyweight, if Ortiz is not going to fight the real champ in Wilder then he could at least fight Ortiz.

But once again he ducks the bigger fights and tougher threats to face Povetkin? And don’t tell me how Ortiz is a cheat because Povetkin has the exact same reputation.

You guys need to stop with this BS. The best fights aren’t happening because you guys are trying to preserve your man crushes. No Wilder fans real boxing fans don’t get behind one man. We want to see the best fights happen in the prime! You man fans want to debate about who’s best without actually seeing it happen in the ring. GTFOH

#1 no deflectorama allowed unless you acknowledge Wilder fought cans for way longer than his promoter originally said he would. The original plan was 20 fights vs cans, then move up in competition. I know that to be fact. I have friends in Bham and they got that direct from Wilder. But then oops he ended up close to 40 fights before he started stepping up. You Wilder fans hate to have that brought up along with him getting nearly stopped by Ortiz.

And BTW, Povetkin was not stopped, he went 12 with Wlad. And also BTW, I have always given props to Wilder for eventually beating Ortiz, so don't start in with that other biz.

The reality is, Joshua will fight all the top fighters before it's said and done. Povetkin is just who he's fighting now. You can speculate otherwise, but Joshua has already said he wants to go at it vs all the top guys. He even has admitted when fighters get the best of him in sparring. Hearn is just like any promoter, but if Joshua demands X fighter at X time, he gets them. And he has fought a higher level of competition than Wilder has.

There are no 'man crushes' with me. And absolutely no b.s., no matter how frantically you try to spin it. I've always wanted to see the best fights. Always.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Yeah I'm the idiot. Have you been living under a rock or what?

WBC have ordered Brezeale as the mandatory. Google "second mandatory"

Mate, when I was a kid you were still in your dad's sack. Don't go there.

So there’s no evidence or link of this supposed WBC statement?????

“Second mandatory” still means he’s the mandatory you ****ing clown😭😭😭
After Wilder fights Brezeale next Whyte is the mandatory and is GUARANTEED a shot with 6 months per the WBC’s OWN RULES!
And had he not ducked Pulev, he would have been the IBF mandatory, so what’s your excuse for that one???

wbcboxing.com/wbceng/Rules/WBCRulesandRegulationsJanuary2014.pdf
Read 2.35 and 3.9.
Read it and weep kid...😭😭

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Show me your diploma then. I hope this is not the level of intelligence you are teaching the future.

It's not ridiculous. Cojanu was his main sparring partner.

You don't understand boxing, but go back in history. I remember when RJJ (my favourite fighter) was fighting his sparring partner Lou Del Valle, and ended up getting dropped and looked bad.

That was RJJ in his prime with a full camp ffs. Cojanu had been in Parker's whole camp, it's not like he was fat and out of shape.

You just have no context of any of this, because you're a boxrec warrior.

I have nothing to prove to some kid on a forum like yourself. If you don’t want to believe I’m a teacher that’s up to you, but it’s no skin off my nose.

And comparing Del Valle to Cojanu😭😭😭 that says A LOT about your knowledge of this sport.
Del Valle was a world champion who’d been competitive with guys like Virgil Hill, he was a cagey, awkward southpaw who was very difficult to look good against yet despite the knockdown RJJ won virtually every round.
Whilst Parker laboured to a 12 round decision over a D level guy in Cojan who a couple of fights before was getting iced by Donovan Dennis in Boxcino😂😂
That comparison is RIDICULOUS. YDKSAB.

I love how you are criticising Ortiz for looking poor against Scott yet defending Parker. What a hypocrite?😂😂
Who wins in your opinion Cojanu or Malik Scott???

Anyway I’m off up to Manchester in a couple of hours, I’ll deal with sad deluded fanboys like you tomorrow.
Do you seriously have nothing better to do on a Saturday??

Absolute cretin.