Comments Thread For: Golovkin Promoter: We'd Go To 55-45 - That Makes Canelo A-Side

[Boxing Goat]

you just ended your life on boxingscene dummy. switch to your alt. you would dress up in thongs if a chick is fine enough? don't debate anybody ever again. I'll remind you of this.

Sure would and I don't care what random idiots on the internet say.

And what makes your dumb a55 think you're some kind of BS authority? Nobody cares what you think, especially me.

You'll remind me LOL! stfu you fkn child

[markther]

Here was the original projection before the 1st fight. Golovkin and Alvarez were both projected to earn a record amount, with Canelo and GGG guaranteed $20m and $15m respectively. That was 57-43 in Canelos favor. The reason Canelo got the greater share was due to being the bigger name in American and Mexican sport.

With the original estimate of 1.5 million views, the two fighters will more than double their money. It was suggested that Canelo could earn $50 million and $33 million for Golovkin. That was 60-40 Canelo for the 1st fight.

When the exact numbers came in, the percentages for the 1st fight was still around 60-40.

What changed after the 1st fight? The 1st fight was a draw, Canelo got suspended for 6 months and dropped from the WBC rankings, and GGG got stripped of his IBF belt.

Now despite GGG holding three of the four world titles at 160 pounds in the 1st fight, Canelo was on the A-side because of his larger fan base. However, GGG never had an opponent with a brand strong enough to produce a major pay-per-view bout (the closest thing to it was Kell Brook), so there was nothing comparable to reference when looking over the engagement totals of his previous fights. That is why Canelo got the A-side.

But their 1st fight does tell us the GGG impact because Canelos numbers are little misleading. Canelo has faced at least two major figures in the sport, GGG never has. In 2013, he was the B-side in a bout against Floyd Mayweather Jr. That fight produced 2.2 million pay-per-view buys. While Canelo was certainly one of the biggest names in the sport at the time, the majority of the interest in the fight can be attributed to Mayweather's involvement, analytics & boxing experts reported. When Canelo was the A-side in his middleweight title bout against Miguel Cotto in 2015, it did just 900,000 pay-per-view buys. That’s well under the 1.5 million GGG-Canelo was expected to generate. Those numbers suggested GGG was a bigger draw than Cotto who received 75-25 as the A-side. And remember the highest “guaranteed purse” for both GGG & Canelos before their first fight was $5 million each. Canelo was never guaranteed more than that for any fight in his career. His guaranteed purse was 5 million for both Cotto & Mayweather. GGG received a 5 million guarantee for his fight with Kell Brook.

For their first fight, GGG was given an estimated guaranteed purse of 3 million and Canelo 5 million, 63-37 split.

That’s why I believe 45% is fair for GGG. The 1st fight was a DRAW, GGG kept all of his titles until recently being stripped of the WBC, Canelo was dropped from those rankings, doesn’t have a current title, and HE got suspended, not GGG. Both fighters are a sizable draw in the rematch based on the “real data” out there and all the above mentioned. Does Canelo still have a bigger fan base just looking at the rematch, probably.

But Cotto & Mayweather are the reason Oscar can manipulate the facts about the drawing power of Canelo and the lack there of for GGG. It’s business but Oscar isn’t painting an accurate picture in negotiations. Just because GGG accepted around 40% of the guaranteed purse in the 1st fight and settled with around 40% of the overall proceeds, doesn’t mean he should accept less than 45% in a REMATCH. FACTS MORONS!!!

[bigdunny1]

GGG didn't get 40% for the first fight. LMAO His own promoter has already confirmed publicly that the split was 70/30 canelo. GGG was due to make 35% this sept with some tweaks and changes all of which GGG's own promoter negotiated for weeks after the May fight was canceled and Loeffler signed off on all points. But GGG in the last hour refused to sign the deal that his own promoter thought was fair and agreed to. Blew up the deal that everybody worked on now demanding 50%. Turned down a guaranteed 20M deal to go back to fighting for 1-3M and lost a belt in the process and is on the verge of having another belt stripped because he's ducking Charlo.

This is really simple go look up Canelo's purses, live gate numbers and PPV sales without GGG. Now go look up GGG's numbers without Canelo. They aren't close. Canelo makes drastically more money because fans actually buy his fights while GGG can't sell shyt. Can't even get folks to show up to the stubhub. Both guys fought last year on PPV against other opponents. Canelo drew 1M buys, GGG drew 150K. GGG has mandatories already lost 1 belt because he was ducking it and now has Charlo he has to fight if he doesn't fight Canelo. Canelo didn't build up a fake rep about all I care about is belts and has been saying phuk the orgs I choose who I want to fight when I fight. He can fight anyone and get paid he has a offer out there for Jacobs that will pay him easily 20M. GGG fought Vanes for 1M and his fight last year before canelo he made 2.5M. So he can go back to making 1-3M paydays and get his head knocked off by Charlo. He's pushing 40 with only a few fights left he will NEVER make up that 20M on the table. He needs to fight 5-10 more times to break even. Canelo is young still in his 20's already making 20M paydays WITHOUT GGG. He will make up that money and then some because he's the A side fans buy his PPVs not GGG's. So either agree to his terms and collect your retirement paycheck or move on and stop begging for a handout from someone else.

[SUBZER0ED]

Gennady wants the rematch with Canelo regardless of what Oscar says

LOL i thought lil g was standing on "principle". what principle is this? Oscar tells him to fck off and kick rocks and he continues begging and sniffing ass for money. I can't wait for Oscar's reply. it should be a savage one.

I don't think that's what the statement means. Read the rest of it: "Gennady wants the rematch with Canelo regardless of what Oscar says. He always wanted the fight with Canelo."

I'm pretty sure it means that despite ODLH suggesting Golovkin doesn't really want the fight based on split demands, nothing could be further from the truth.

[Boxing Goat]

WTF? you really are an emo millennial *****.

That makes sense, being that I said that I would dress up to get some p@ssy. You're chock full of intelligence sir lol

[SUBZER0ED]

Nice! LOL!!! I his defense, that chick is fine and I would dress up for her too if she did what I wanted her too as well lol

First of all, Ewww! Second of all, that could be a ****** dude! Third of all, EWWW!!

[Senor_frogs]

No jack ass!!! If I believed that, my argument would actually be for Alvacheat because he has better wins on his resume. And part of marketability is having a respectable image and not one that is tarnished by a suspension.

Alvacheat doesn’t deserve more than 50% because he was suspended which canceled the rematch, and the 1st fight was a draw. And BOTH of them drew the 3rd largest gate in boxing history not just Alvacheat. There was 2 boxers in the ring that night that fought to a draw. Are boxing fans that ****** and ******ed? Are they going to pay more for a rematch because Alvacheat is on the card or will that put down PPV dollars because GGG is in the ring too making it a very competitive, must see rematch. So GGG deserves at least 50% based on all the above. And he is willing to accept 45% now, as the “champion belt holder”, that’s more than fair.

Oscar the cross dressing crack head is being greedy. Sure Alvacheat is the most lucrative fight for GGG based on the results and dollars generated in the 1st fight. But that was Alvacheats argument BEFORE the first fight concerning his draw and his PPV power. Once the 1st fight is completed and the PPV & gate numbers are evaluated; BOTH boxers garnered a lot of interest for a rematch. That’s why it was scheduled right away. But Alvacheat DID NOT WIN the 1st fight with GGG and he was subsequently suspended. He isn’t 70-30 or 60-40 or 80-20 or even 65-35 like some of the dumb ass morons on this post suggest based on ALL the facts surrounding the rematch. It’s arrogant to not accept 45%. GGG is in that ring too and BOTH of them will make people want to order this fight and go see it. And all the bad blood between them right now.

I am not buying the rematch because of Alvacheat. I wouldn’t buy if I was a fan of his. I would buy it because the 1st fight was a competitive DRAW and their is bad blood right now. And they will go at each other. Not because of Alvacheat. F....him, and a lot of fans feel that way about his PED taking dumb ass.

The cross dresser & PED addict are trying to take advantage. 65-35, isn’t fair because Alvacheat doesn’t have any belts. When has a champion ever in the history of boxing taken a split so far apart. It’s NEVER happend and the cross dresser drug addict knows it.

Dam. So emotional. Maybe if you write a few more paragraphs you’ll get your point across

[Verus]

If you have an understanding of the general worth of your skill set there should be no reason for you to feel underpaid. If you feel that way that probably means you failed to negotiate adequately during the initial offer of employment and left money on the table.

That being said, the situation between ggg and canelo is slightly different than negotiating a salary at some company. Any prospective employer can easily replace you regardless of your work experience, the success of the corporation doesn’t necessarily depend on you being brought on board, unless you’re a c level executive. There is no replacement for either fighter (ggg/canelo) that could reap the same magnitude of monetary profit.

That being said, it is reasonable for ggg to negotiate for a fairer split, it just doesn’t necessarily mean he is entitled to it. Bottom line is the sum is greater than its parts, and canelo’s team should think about making concessions in order to make their biggest pay days as well.

I agree with most everything you said. Both Golovkin and Canelo are free to try and get the most that they can, but I will add that when you say that it is reasonable to for GGG (or Canelo) for that matter to negotiate for a fairer split. I would ditch the word "fairer" and say they are free to negotiate for a BETTER split. They are also free to walk away and withhold their services if they are not satisfied with the other party's best and final offer.

[Boxing Goat]

First of all, Ewww! Second of all, that could be a ****** dude! Third of all, EWWW!!

Hey, if that's what she's into, who am I to deny her? As long as it's not put on the internet like Oscar of course lol

[vitali1999]

**** are you talking about? So it's ok for Canelo to avoid his mandos and give up his WBC title without a fight but when GGG gets stripped, he's a piece of trash right?

Right so right