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  • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
    What exactly was lost that he needed to recoup? Training camp money? Didn't he get paid for the Vanes fight? He is getting the purse he would have gotten if he fought Alvarez in May. It's a wash.
    Let me put it to you this way, after Povetkin failed his drug test for meldonium, Wilder sued for his purse and won. Alvarez & ODLH are fortunate that Golovkin was willing to still renegotiate the rematch.

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    • Originally posted by icha View Post
      the thing is at his age canelo can afford that, in fact he already did in the past by leaving negotiations with cotto only to go and fight kirkland... in the other hand ggg isnt in the same situation ...
      ggg is no bigger name than cotto was , canelo wont hesitate to show him the middle finger if he feels like...
      Of course. Point is that dude claimed that Canelo would make as much vs Jacobs as he would have against ggg.

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      • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
        Let me put it to you this way, after Povetkin failed his drug test for meldonium, Wilder sued for his purse and won. Alvarez & ODLH are fortunate that Golovkin was willing to still renegotiate the rematch.
        Not really. Wilder was guaranteed a purse as the fight had gone to purse bid. Golovkin was not guaranteed a purse. I'm sure he could have sued and won a judgement in the amount of what he normally makes for a fight, but that would essentially cancel any chance of getting the rematch in Sep. He'd make far more money fighting Alvarez than he'd get suing him. Besides, GBP would have easily argued that GGG had ample time to get a replacement fighter. That's likely why they pulled out of the fight well ahead of the hearing at NSAC.

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        • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
          Of course. Point is that dude claimed that Canelo would make as much vs Jacobs as he would have against ggg.
          i dont think so, maybe half of that and thats stretching ...

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          • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
            Not really. Wilder was guaranteed a purse as the fight had gone to purse bid. Golovkin was not guaranteed a purse. I'm sure he could have sued and won a judgement in the amount of what he normally makes for a fight, but that would essentially cancel any chance of getting the rematch in Sep. He'd make far more money fighting Alvarez than he'd get suing him. Besides, GBP would have easily argued that GGG had ample time to get a replacement fighter. That's likely why they pulled out of the fight well ahead of the hearing at NSAC.
            Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you on suing for what he normally makes per fight. His lawyers could easily have argued for substantially more, based on the terms of their contract and projected revenue. He lost a huge amount of money that could not be recouped in fighting someone else. Also, unless specified in their contract, Golovkin fighting another fighter would not have released GBP from its obligation.

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            • Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
              I've never been married cause I'm one of the few smart ones you dumb fucc! So me not being married is by choice.
              I've fucced plenty of married women in my lifetime, still am in fact. I've had biitches like you willing to leave their husbands and kids for me. That's how I roll punk!
              When your an independent, hardworking, good looking guy like myself then there's never any shortage of women for me.
              So me knowing how much of a slut most women really are, why would I wanna marry one?
              I've got a good job, my own house and three cars so I'm set. I don't need a biitch for anything other than sex!

              Your still a punk ass loser living in your momma's basement and living off welfare. You aren't on my level punk so stay off my **** you little biitch!
              Whoa you definitely have anger management issues against women. Maybe you could sell one of your three imaginary cars to pay for some councilling to help you with that. "I've had biitches like YOU willing to leave their husbands and kids for me. That's how I roll punk!", so you've had men wanting to leave husbands for you, so you are gay. I guess that explains your anger to women lol. Weird your called bigstomps, by yourself, one of the few Americans with a sense of irony, as you talk like an over compensating little *****.

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              • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
                Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you on suing for what he normally makes per fight. His lawyers could easily have argued for substantially more, based on the terms of their contract and projected revenue. He lost a huge amount of money that could not be recouped in fighting someone else. Also, unless specified in their contract, Golovkin fighting another fighter would not have released GBP from its obligation.
                If your perspective were predominant, there would be plenty of lawsuits against dopers. Surprisingly, there are few. Likely because it's hard to win them. Wilders is still not finalized.

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                • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                  If your perspective were predominant, there would be plenty of lawsuits against dopers. Surprisingly, there are few. Likely because it's hard to win them. Wilders is still not finalized.
                  I dont think it is all that hard to "win" them, I just think that unless it is an American fighter with alot of assets, actually collecting on any judgements would be the hard part. If Im not mistaken, Wilder initially won, but never collected a dime.


                  With Canelo, the majority of his income originates in the US via PPV and gate revenue, so collecting on a jugement would be a breeze.......

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                  • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
                    Man, you simply must stop drinking the Canelo Kool-Aid!

                    And those "points" that you so painstakingly put together, have exactly nothing to do with the discussion of Golovkin vs Canelo II.


                    Golovkin inexplicably fought Vanes lol

                    Golovkin KNEW that selecting Vanes would waste a precious fight-date, and create an impossible log-jam in September...

                    they knew !!

                    like I asked many times, how the fk was Golovkin going to fight...

                    1) his mando, Derevyanchenko
                    2) his payday, Canelo
                    3) his WBO dream, Saunders
                    4) his other mando, Charlo

                    ..... all in September ?????

                    then..... AFTER INTENTIONALLY creating an impossible log-jam..... what did Team Bull**** do.....?

                    did they talk about Derevy?..... did they talk about Canelo?..... did they talk about Saunders?..... did they talk about Charlo?

                    NO..... they ALL started talking about Murata lol ?????

                    why would the IBF do anything other than strip that boy ?

                    why should anyone put up with that bull****, from Team Bull****?

                    hard luck for Golovkin

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                    • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                      Not really. Wilder was guaranteed a purse as the fight had gone to purse bid. Golovkin was not guaranteed a purse. I'm sure he could have sued and won a judgement in the amount of what he normally makes for a fight, but that would essentially cancel any chance of getting the rematch in Sep. He'd make far more money fighting Alvarez than he'd get suing him. Besides, GBP would have easily argued that GGG had ample time to get a replacement fighter. That's likely why they pulled out of the fight well ahead of the hearing at NSAC.

                      aah ok, GOOD points !

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