Comments Thread For: Hearn: Without Joshua, Wilder's Future is Not Too Bright or Rosy

[Ray*]

Either way you slice it, Martin sold the belt to the highest bidder which was Hearn and acknowledged that talks were had with Team Wilder. Wilder Team also attempted to get a fight against Parker once Fury was injured. That's on record.

You "explained" by looking at fight dates but not the dealings between the fights.

Martin would have sold the belt into Wilder if Wilder's team had his best interest at heart. Most of the decisions they made for him were always late decisions. He should have taken that belt off Martin and Parker before Joshua even had the chance to. But they were not forward thinking at all.

Martin/Wilder were with Haymon, fought on the same card, both won, no need to waste time. Get that belt off Martin before Joshua even swooped in, and thats a Joshua with like 16 fights. A Joshua that wasn't expect to fight for a title at that point... (Missed opportunity by Wilder's team).

[Ake-Dawg]

Martin would have sold the belt into Wilder if Wilder's team had his best interest at heart. Most of the decisions they made for him were always late decisions. He should have taken that belt off Martin and Parker before Joshua even had the chance to. But they were not forward thinking at all.

Martin/Wilder were with Haymon, fought on the same card, both won, no need to waste time. Get that belt off Martin before Joshua even swooped in, and thats a Joshua with like 16 fights. A Joshua that wasn't expect to fight for a title at that point... (Missed opportunity by Wilder's team).

So they should have grossly overpaid both Wilder and Martin to get the IBF? Martin got $5M from Hearn. Again since Martin was champ for 60 days that means Hearn threw his bid in for the belt immediately.

It's easy to look back at the past and simply say someone should have tried harder. However, in real-time the decisions were reasonable.

[juggernaut666]

Martin would have sold the belt into Wilder if Wilder's team had his best interest at heart. Most of the decisions they made for him were always late decisions. He should have taken that belt off Martin and Parker before Joshua even had the chance to. But they were not forward thinking at all.

Martin/Wilder were with Haymon, fought on the same card, both won, no need to waste time. Get that belt off Martin before Joshua even swooped in, and thats a Joshua with like 16 fights. A Joshua that wasn't expect to fight for a title at that point... (Missed opportunity by Wilder's team).

Povetkin was still mandatory for Wilder who had to fight next and scheduled a May 2016 fight so he wasnt going to be fighting Martin who fought Joshua in April 2016 . .

Martin challenged Joshua anyway he had no interest in Wilder bc of the obvious money difference .

The constant claim that Wilder stated that Joshua ducked him for Martin as usual is idiotic however because Martin issued the challenge to Joshua in the first place , no one ever ducked Wilder .



Wilder COULD have persued Parker and had a small window for Klitchko however which is true .

[Ray*]

So they should have grossly overpaid both Wilder and Martin to get the IBF?



Martin got $5M from Hearn. Again since Martin was champ for 60 days that means Hearn threw his bid in for the belt immediately.



It's easy to look back at the past and simply say someone should have tried harder. However, in real-time the decisions were reasonable.

Who knows if they had to overpay? We would never know that as they didn't act when Martin was right underneath their noses.


If Wilder had a better team they would jump in that night, before Hearn even knew who Martin was. They fought on the same card, had the same manager.



Yes very easy to look back especially when they had 10 years to do better for Wilder and they didn't.

[AJISKING]

Wilder is finished

He will be fighting for 1m maybe 1.5m now that he has used Joshua’s name

Whilst Joshua keeps earning 20m pay days

Wilder should have fought Joshua

[New England]

listren to this guy say literally whatever he can to save face with british fans.

even lacedup and the like have come around, eddie doesn't want the fight right now and he turned down more money than joshua could make fighting in england or anywhere else and against anybody else.



they're hoping fury makes a comeback. i'm starting to see the timeline play out. joshua won't get beat up or knocked out by fury regardless, his career will go on and he'll most likely win becuae he's young and fury is coming off of a retirement and losing 70 lbs.

[New England]

Wilder is finished

He will be fighting for 1m maybe 1.5m now that he has used Joshua’s name

Whilst Joshua keeps earning 20m pay days

Wilder should have fought Joshua

he wasn't willing to take the same amount of money joseph parker got. and joshua turned down 50 million with an upside right after he said 50 million would make the fight. brits have no leg to stand on whatsoever. the main hurdle for this fight is a british white guy named eddie hearn. i'm not holding that against hearn, he's a businessman protecting an investment. but it is what it is and we need to be honest about it.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Why, because his fighter (AJ) wants the fight in the UK?

Did you feel this way about all the Americans throughout history who wanted to have their fights in the US only?

Nothing wrong with AJ wanting the fight in the UK, and we've already established the fact that Wilder's fought in the UK already.

And yes, I'm thoroughly irritated when Americans want to fight other Americans on THEIR turf, because they feel they'll have an advantage....but those same fighters don't want to fight overseas.

So yeah...it's not necessarily what you asked, but that's where I'm coming from.

I just don't like what's going on right now....waaaaay too much Hearn, a lot of talk from Wilder, and very little words from AJ. Move, Eddie.

[Sid-Knee]

Not if Deontay gets a intirm belt and forces a purse bid !!!!

And what interim title is out there for Wilder to collect?

[Sid-Knee]

Nothing wrong with AJ wanting the fight in the UK, and we've already established the fact that Wilder's fought in the UK already.

And yes, I'm thoroughly irritated when Americans want to fight other Americans on THEIR turf, because they feel they'll have an advantage....but those same fighters don't want to fight overseas.

So yeah...it's not necessarily what you asked, but that's where I'm coming from.

I just don't like what's going on right now....waaaaay too much Hearn, a lot of talk from Wilder, and very little words from AJ. Move, Eddie.

That's fair enough.