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  • Tomjas
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    #71
    Originally posted by whoseyourdaddy
    Canelo-Spike will sell more PPV than GGG vs BJS, Jacobs, Charlo, Devirachenko and whoever else they match him with, Canelo should tell him go Phuck yourself Mr. 97K
    Says more about the idiots who buy that shower than about the other fighters

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    • chubuk7
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      #72
      Originally posted by whoseyourdaddy
      GGG needs to put his big boys pants first and stop ducking, It seems to me GGG knows something you OVIOUSLY do not, I never ever seen him so hesitant to engage like he did with Canelo. Again GGG needs to grow a pair and fight the fight he beg for soo long and now is ducking.
      GGG needs to grow a pair right?..Come on dawg..Canelo lost and then tested positive and you think he should get rewarded?..Get real bro.. This is what's wrong with boxing..people who aren't realistic.
      Last edited by chubuk7; 06-02-2018, 11:49 PM.

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      • BO$$NELO
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        #73
        Originally posted by Fonseca17
        Jacobs is a bigger nightmare than ggg for canelo and he knows it. Canelo will be facing the spikes & lemieuxs.
        Still better than Vanes or WW Brook.

        And I think Ca$h fights BJS September

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        • Shadoww702
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          #74
          Originally posted by whoseyourdaddy
          If he Cars about the belts so much why is he been begging Canelo for the past 2 years you dim wit!! Canelo has no belts, and yet the GGGimp continue to Harassed Canelo for a money fight. Canelo can make 15 mill minimum per fight, Golovking can verily Make 3 and still acting like a diva LMAO
          Dont forget gonna lose a belt for picking Vanes out of 2 year retirement instead of fighting Sergiy. Sergiy was willing to fight for vanes $ while it was GGG who wanted more for that work.

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          • chubuk7
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            #75
            Originally posted by Shadoww702
            Dont forget gonna lose a belt for picking Vanes out of 2 year retirement instead of fighting Sergiy. Sergiy was willing to fight for vanes $ while it was GGG who wanted more for that work.
            Other fighters have been stripped of their title for not fighting their mandatory. So nothing new. The fact is Red isn’t a draw on his own. The PPV numbers reflect it and without GGG Canelo will be facing Spike and I would bet that doesn’t even get put on PPV.

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            • S7V7N
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              #76
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              together... GGG will make about 25mil, Canelo will make about 50mil

              apart... Golovkin will make 2mil, and Canelo will make 15mil

              Golovkin will make 10x more with Canelo, and Canelo will make 2-3x more with Golovkin..... so, Golovkin fighting anyone else is totally pointless
              I think some people are vastly underestimating what Golovkin makes against solid names when able to promote a proper PPV & grossly exaggerating what Canelo will make against someone else that isn't an established name. It's more like they both make 5x as much together while Canelo makes 2-3x what GGG does without him. This is also before the scandal, none of us know how that will affect his numbers if he doesn't fight Golovkin next, while GGG's sales are surely going to rise since, as he's gotten more exposure.

              vs Jacobs: $2.5m purse + minimum $4m from live gate & ppv.
              gate=$3.7m
              ppv=$11m (170,000x$65)
              ($15m-10%/2=X&Y-40%=$4m)

              vs Lemieux: $2m purse + minimum $2.5m from live gate & ppv
              gate=$2m
              ppv=$7.5m (150,000x$50)
              ($9.5m-10%/2=X&Y-40%=$2.5m)

              The standard breakdown as far as money is concerned is a 10% fee off the top for the distributor, with 45% each for the cable system and the promoter. So even if you figure both opponents got a 40% cut, the remaining figure is still quite large for both bouts.

              It was also reported that Golovkin made $5m from the Brook fight.

              Now take a look at Canelo: More guarantee & sales sure, but the real difference here is the 20% spit while GGG gave his opponents 40%. It's quite reasonable to believe that solid contenders will demand a larger slice of the pie going forward & not settle for such a small amount especially knowing they will get that from Golovkin's team. It doubles their ppv share & in effect earns them just as much even if the sales are doubled against Canelo.

              vs Khan: $3.5m purse + minimum $14m from live gate & ppv.
              gate=$7.4M
              ppv=$32.5m (500,000x$65)
              ($40m-10%/2=X&Y-20%=$14m)

              vs Smith: $3.5m purse + minimum $8.8m from live gate & ppv.
              gate=$5m
              ppv= $19.5m (300,000x$65)
              ($24.5m-10%/2=X&Y-20%=$8.8m)
              Last edited by S7V7N; 06-03-2018, 06:30 AM.

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              • chubuk7
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                #77
                Put sth aside...Thing is if GGG blasts out D-chenko than the nay Sayers or haters will say he was over hyped etc. It would be the same thing with Jermall C who really has not beat anyone let alone any decent middleweight.

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                • Shadoww702
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by chubuk7
                  Other fighters have been stripped of their title for not fighting their mandatory. So nothing new. The fact is Red isn’t a draw on his own. The PPV numbers reflect it and without GGG Canelo will be facing Spike and I would bet that doesn’t even get put on PPV.
                  1. Pednelo did almost same numbers with Chavez Jr

                  2. Canelo fights Spike next it better NOT be on PPV. Hell even on HBO I probably wont watch it. I dont watch sht fights. Unless I have money on them.

                  3. If its Spike Im gonna bounce as a Canelo fan.
                  Last edited by Shadoww702; 06-03-2018, 06:55 AM.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by S7V7N
                    I think some people are vastly underestimating what Golovkin makes against solid names when able to promote a proper PPV & grossly exaggerating what Canelo will make against someone else that isn't an established name. It's more like they both make 5x as much together while Canelo makes 2-3x what GGG does without him. This is also before the scandal, none of us know how that will affect his numbers if he doesn't fight Golovkin next, while GGG's sales are surely going to rise since, as he's gotten more exposure.

                    vs Jacobs: $2.5m purse + minimum $4m from live gate & ppv.
                    gate=$3.7m
                    ppv=$11m (170,000x$65)
                    ($15m-10%/2=X&Y-40%=$4m)

                    vs Lemieux: $2m purse + minimum $2.5m from live gate & ppv
                    gate=$2m
                    ppv=$7.5m (150,000x$50)
                    ($9.5m-10%/2=X&Y-40%=$2.5m)

                    The standard breakdown as far as money is concerned is a 10% fee off the top for the distributor, with 45% each for the cable system and the promoter. So even if you figure both opponents got a 40% cut, the remaining figure is still quite large for both bouts.

                    It was also reported that Golovkin made $5m from the Brook fight.

                    Now take a look at Canelo: More guarantee & sales sure, but the real difference here is the 20% spit while GGG gave his opponents 40%. It's quite reasonable to believe that solid contenders will demand a larger slice of the pie going forward & not settle for such a small amount especially knowing they will get that from Golovkin's team. It doubles their ppv share & in effect earns them just as much even if the sales are doubled against Canelo.

                    vs Khan: $3.5m purse + minimum $14m from live gate & ppv.
                    gate=$7.4M
                    ppv=$32.5m (500,000x$65)
                    ($40m-10%/2=X&Y-20%=$14m)

                    vs Smith: $3.5m purse + minimum $8.8m from live gate & ppv.
                    gate=$5m
                    ppv= $19.5m (300,000x$65)
                    ($24.5m-10%/2=X&Y-20%=$8.8m)
                    Man you put a LOT of work in someone else's money. And you did that sht for FREE??? *** how much you charge to do taxes???

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                    • S7V7N
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702
                      Man you put a LOT of work in someone else's money.
                      Umm, much less work than you do by posting non-stop. Maybe took me 20mins to research & do the math.

                      I just choose to have posts with substantiated content rather than exaggerated baseless claims.

                      Quality>Quantity.

                      Funny quote from a friend of mine:
                      5 two's still equal a 10!
                      That's not my thinking at all.
                      Last edited by S7V7N; 06-03-2018, 07:05 AM.

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