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  • Till nsb closes out its forums, its always been pac vs floyd, lets just leave both of them happy and say thank you that atleast in our lives we witnessed the art of offense and defense in a different perspective. Cheers

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    • Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
      Of course its considered movement.
      Just because they utilised such techniques doesn't mean that has to be replicated there's always more than one way to skin a cat, he has half a dozen losses and no two fights are the same. And just because a fighter has rarely if ever displayed something it doesn't mean he can't (Just like how Canelo apparently didn't have the feet to avoid GGG).

      Floyd stayed away from everyones offense lol
      He couldn't put combinations together like he once could and became increasingly negative during his latter years. I'm certain if Morales can stand in front of Manny and outfight him using an aggressive counterpunching style Canelo can if need be. Frankly he can beat him a number of ways not just because of his size but because he's the smarter fighter with the better boxing brain.

      Its a predictable fight with Manny starting great for 3-4 rounds 6 being kind. His speed and angles absolutely would cause problems but he's human and that 20+ lb weight advantage WILL take its tole, those bodyshots will sink in and he will slow down. He'll become even more stationary, he'll start coming in in straight lines not moving his head and get wiped out. We've all seen it dozens of times, there are weight divisions for a reason. No 5ft6, 143lb man is beating a 170lb Canelo.

      Floyd will always do better against counterpunchers, Manny will always do better against pressure fighters.
      Meanwhile Pac mauled a prime Cotto and stopped him, while Canelo being the much bigger man went the distance with an older Cotto in a much closer fight. Canelo would not be able to handle the speed, angles, and explosiveness of a prime Manny. It would be Margarito all over again, especially for the green, weight drained version of Alvarez that fought Floyd.

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      • Floyd undefeated

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        • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          Beats them all except probably Canelo due to size and style.

          Stylistically he fairs well against most of them.

          But then on the flipside I don't see Floyd getting stopped by Singsurat or Torrecampo nor do I see him losing to Morales or struggling x4 with Marquez for the same reason.

          So it's all relative.
          true

          Pacquiao is a great fighter, but he has some off nights.

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          • He wouldn't need the judges against Castillo the way Floyd did in the first fight

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            • Pac did better against all common opponents, so with that idea in mind, however well floyd has done against his opponents, people can entertain idea Pac would do better. So it's not a stretch to imagine Pac koing gatti in 2 rounds, koing Castillo in 8 rounds, and stopping connor McGregor in 5 rounds
              Against jmm floyd cheated scales so it don't count
              Last edited by hugh grant; 06-01-2018, 07:31 AM.

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              • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                Yet when they fought he beat him pretty easily.

                The beauty of boxing.
                Absolutely, although, it would've been better if they fought each other around 2009-2010, but it is what it is. I still enjoyed the fight.

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                • styles make fights... you guys are getting older here and just wont learn that...
                  floyd has an easy night vs counter punchers just ask marquez and canelo...
                  pac strugles vs counter punchers, even a drained version of canelo has faster hands and much more power than marquez... there is a reason pac never pushed for that fight despite all the money involved...

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                  • Originally posted by icha View Post
                    styles make fights... you guys are getting older here and just wont learn that...
                    floyd has an easy night vs counter punchers just ask marquez and canelo...
                    pac strugles vs counter punchers, even a drained version of canelo has faster hands and much more power than marquez... there is a reason pac never pushed for that fight despite all the money involved...
                    And there is a reason Floyd avoided Khan, Thurman, Bradley, Garcia, Porter, Martinez, a DLH rematch for a ton of money, a prime PAC, Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, and Williams. Avoided Freitas and Casamayor too.

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                    • Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                      And there is a reason Floyd avoided Khan, Thurman, Bradley, Garcia, Porter, Martinez, a DLH rematch for a ton of money, a prime PAC, Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, and Williams. Avoided Freitas and Casamayor too.
                      im not even a floyd fan, so if you want say he avoided some fights so be it, i just wanted to point the obvious as seen in the marquez fight, floyd has a much easiear time with counter punchers , and that style is all wrong for pac...
                      just as pac has a much eaisiear time with preassure fighters as seen in the margo and rios fights, floyd didvstrugle in the first maidana fight imo... so there you have it, styles make fights...

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