Was the 164 offer really that bad?

[lizard_man]

If he can go to 160 for Floyd, he can easily go to 164 for Golovkin.

Go to 160 to fight an atg and make the most money he would ever make.

Or go to 164 to fight lil g who has no pull and would probably make less than what he made to fight kovalev.

Stop riding lil g's dlck. You have common sense.

[lizard_man]

Why do 2 guys in the same division need a catch Weight?

Canelo wanted the fight at 154.

[Motorcity Cobra]

When did Ward say okay? 3 years later when the fight no longer mattered? You people love to chant this silly mantra of yours that doesn't even make sense. Kids say the darnedest things, as they say.

You saying Ward-GGG wouldnt have mattered when Ward came back from his layoff? You trippin for real.

[Gate keeper]

when ward made the offer for 168 golovkins fans said "ward cant even make 168 anymore anyway so its just a ploy"....

why didnt lil g ask for 164 for chavez or froch?

how many times has golovkins team mentioned fighting at 168? didnt abel say that would be his best weight?

why is he trying to drain an old, boring, featherfisted, irrelevant guy?

Wrong, the offer was 164 for 50-50, not in general. Ward was a pain to deal with in negotiations and wanted more than K2 felt he was worth. We've seen and heard the same thing when Kathy Duva was dealing with him for Kovalev. So they then said if he wants 50-50, then it needs be at 164, meeting in the middle in purse and weight. Eventually K2 moved on to Lemueix and then Ward started making more noise about it, when it was too late. Even knowing it was too late, he agreed to the offer but wanted it about a year in advance around the same time he'd be fighting the Canelo/Cotton winner. I don't know think K2 was super anxious for than fight, but I don't think Ward was either.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Canelo wanted the fight at 154.

Canelo won the middleweight title.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Go to 160 to fight an atg and make the most money he would ever make.

Or go to 164 to fight lil g who has no pull and would probably make less than what he made to fight kovalev.

Stop riding lil g's dlck. You have common sense.

You are right. I do have common sense. I don’t care who makes what. I’m not a female so how much money a man makes doesn’t concern me. Ward had his chance. He declined.

[4truth]

Canelo won the middleweight title.

True and had Canelo beaten Floyd,Golovkin was willing to do 154 for that title.

[D4thincarnation]

I know the whole Golovkin Ward fiasco is far behind us but I could never wrap my head around how Golovkin asking to fight at 164 was a duck. Wouldn't Ward still have an advantage because he's bigger? How is it a duck when a smaller guy wants to make it as fair as possible but the bigger guy wants to keep all of his advantages?

Different weights. If Ward really wanted it he should have took it.

GGG under no obligation to move up.

Ward also said he would go to 160lbs to fight Mayweather

[AKAcronym]

Ward was full of ****. I never liked the offer of 164 but it's amazing how many people hated the idea of ggg fighting froch or Chavez first before Ward. He gets 3 fights before kov, but nope, he has to fight ward right away. I've followed the timeline close enough to know the details. Again, hated the 164 ****, but Ward was disingenuous.

[elfag]

GGG didnt have the spine to move up 1 division. Just one. You have B level guys like Broner fighting through 4 divisions and GGG wont move up 1 damn division even though he supposedly beats up light heavies in sparring. He knew Ward would tax his ass big time. He didnt want that work.