Comments Thread For: Golovkin Promoter Explains GGG's Position: He Wants Fair Split!

[BDG]

In 2008 the competition at MW was much better than at SMW.

There's also no reason why he should move up other than you think he
.

So, GGG prime was in 2008? He didn't even have a belt then so what point are you trying to make. The guy didn't even make his US debut until 2012. Stop reaching.

[Satir]

you're calling this cotto's likes of boxing the hof's and atg's because you havent seen the other side of the moon and have never had the opportunity to watch the great soviet or eastern europeens talents except maybe for Kostya Tszyu, may be just because he changed the nationality, now you starting to open your eyes and see what the soviet school of boxing represents in guys like Golovkin, Loma, Usyk, Kovalev, Beterbiev, Gassiev etc., dont fu..ing tell me Cotto has better skills and boxing education then Golovkin, any amateur of boxing will prove you're wrong

[BDG]

you're calling this cotto's likes of boxing the hof's and atg's because you havent seen the other side of the moon and have never had the opportunity to watch the great soviet or eastern europeens talents except maybe for Kostya Tszyu, may be just because he changed the nationality, now you starting to open your eyes and see what the soviet school of boxing represents in guys like Golovkin, Loma, Usyk, Kovalev, Beterbiev, Gassiev etc., dont fu..ing tell me Cotto has better skills and boxing education then Golovkin, any amateur of boxing will prove you're wrong

The problem is his resume. GGG can fight but we don't know how good he is because he doesn't test himself. Most of your list has.

[Scipio2009]

So hypothetically let’s say the pot is 50 million, with canelo and ggg splitting the pot evenly. Both would walk away with 25 million. If you’re saying that canelo vs Jacobs with a 75:25 split in favor of canelo would yield a larger pay day than his 50:50 split with ggg. That would mean the total guarantee for both fighters would have to be at least 33.3 million just for him to be on par with a hypothetical 50:50 purse against ggg. Do you really see him earning over 25 million going against Jacobs? Canelo made a guaranteed purse of 8 million with Chavez jr, which was a much bigger fight in terms of narratives than canelo vs Jacobs. His last guarantee with ggg was 20 million, 2.5 times against Chavez... there’s no way for him to make more with any other opponent. Better to take a part of a big pie than all of a tiny one, it’s poor business practice to decline when there are no other alternative options.

Talks of guarantees don't matter, since Canelo owns his shows anyway; will keep that separate for now.

Fight clears $50m, even split gets each fighter $25m.

If Daniel Jacobs is the opponent, the Mexico TV money doesn't really change, and they still sell out T-Mobile Arena and do good business on the closed circuit with MGM Resorts (instead of Kazakhs making the trip, and Mexican-style fans enjoying MID weekend with Mexican and Mexican Americans, black folks and urban America will have a reason to make the trip).

The biggest factor left in flux is PPV, and here Alvarez will be working with an opponent who can easily do all of the English press in a clear and cogent way, with a story that can add a bit to the fight for the non-hardcore fan.

1.4m homes is an ask for Alvarez-Jacobs, but topping 700k should be easy, and I don't see 1m being out of the question.

Split the pot 80/20 Alvarez (voluntary fight for the lineal middleweight title, that's not unreasonable), and Alvarez gets his $25m with the fight doing well less of $35m.

A million homes at $65/$75, once all outside parties are paid, nets out something like $30m. The take with MGM Resorts for the fight (gate/closed circuit) is easily worth a net of $15m. The Mexico TV (the two-tiered setup is pretty ingenious) is likely worth another likely $10m. The rest of the revenue add their bit to the pot.

My point is that even if the PPV did zero business, there's still enough money coming in from everything else, on a 80/20 split with Jacobs, to basically get him what he'd get by splitting things 50/50 with Golovkin, so such a deal wouldn't make sense.

[BLACK KNOT]

The only thing I agree with you on is that not every fighter has to make the jump. Like I've said in my post before if GGG wanted to challenge himself going up in weight would have been better than fighting cans. I've said he has been mismanaged and now he has to play second fiddle to Canelo. I'm not sure if you just replied to one of my post but what I'm saying is this GGG is to blame for him not being a PPV star. The guy was smoking hot and him/his team wasted his prime feeding him weak comp. If he would have moved up and challenged himself, he would not be in this position of chasing Nelo. Now with HBO shrinking budget and GGG resume, he is stuck getting whatever GBP wants to give him or he can move on to his Mandos. If you don't agree, cool but to make excuses why this couldn't have happend is crazy. GGG should not have a resume on par with Gabe Rosado

lol never seen a post full of crap as this one how is his resume on par with rosado??? its far better. These ***ing trolls have gone full ****** lol

[BLACK KNOT]

The problem is his resume. GGG can fight but we don't know how good he is because he doesn't test himself. Most of your list has.

fact is GGG was heavily ducked during his prime nobody wanted a piece not sturm not martinez not joto nobody. We know how good he is the best damn middleweight since probably hagler. he's been a dominate champion for almost a decade!

[whoseyourdaddy]

**** has changed since the rematch was originally signed. Don't be gullible.

According to who you d*u*mb Motha Phuka! to you? Tom Loeffler is admitting here that GGG price himself out, and you dumb phuck trying to spin thing around? GTFOH

[allenfred]

To be fair GGG deserves an even split with Canelo.

Canelo lost the 1st fight with GGG and the judges screwed GGG in fine American fashion as America hates communists and all Russians. Canelo is the draw who brings in the fans and the PPV cash as Commie GGG has no fan base in boxing. But fair is fair give a 50-50 split and get some fair judges for GGG to win the right way. Cheating and deception is not cool even against a Russian commie.

[allenfred]

I would agree with your assessment if GGG has been offered 40% but I doubt that is the case. Does anyone know what the actual demands of Canelo's camp are?

I heard 60-40 Canelo in favor. The judging is crooked so it doesn't matter. GGG needs a KO to actually win the fight.

[BDG]

lol never seen a post full of crap as this one how is his resume on par with rosado??? its far better. These ***ing trolls have gone full ****** lol

Its on par with Rosado. You fool Rosado isn't a better fighter but he as been in fights where he is the clear underdog. Example Rosado vs Quillen, Rosado vs GGG

GGG have fought people that are not even on Rosados level. Vanes, Wade, etc...

So if you only count Jacobs and Canelo as his big fights where he is the favorite, please show me where GGG has taken a fight where he is even remotely in danger.

Glen Tapia
Jermell Charlo
Martin Murray
Willie Monroe Jr
Jesus A Gutierrez
Josh Clottey
David Lemieux
Peter Quillen
Jleon Love
GGG

that's Gabes last 10 fights which seem like a better or equal resume to GGG.


I would be quiet if I was you because you def don't know boxing.


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