Stephen Espinoza explains why that contract is a slave contract.

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then, do the numbers have any value at all?

They're interesting to discuss, but ultimately meaningless.

Russell Jr reportedly earned 1.4 mio in his last fight, broner around 1 mio.
did Russell earn in actual money 1.4x the amount of broner? or do these numbers at the end of the day have the same value as imaginary numbers?
why even report the numbers if they don't have any meaning?

The numbers are the only publicly available numbers, which is why people report them. But yes, they essentially have the same value as imaginary numbers.

[Commie]

A Slave contract
A rip off
A raysis contract doe

[j0zef]

Broner is making more money by himself, taking in a purse and some of the revenue for the fight. Why would he sign 3 fight contract that pays him less and now stuck with a promoter that he has to obliged to? Take in count that Hearn would take a percentage and Broner won't be seeing any money from the revenue of his fights. Pretty sure he gets his purse check along with a check to his promotional company.

You missed the point. Broner is a fighter on a negative streak, Hearn offered him stability at least over next 3 fights.

All promoters take cuts. Going from promoter A to promoter B changes very little.

Nobody knows for sure that Broner is making more money by himself. If you check out all of the official purses from his fights, he's nowhere close, and the fights are NOT on PPV. He made 1m vs. Vargas (link). 1m vs. Garcia (link) and 1m vs. Granados (link)

And again, even if he is making more by himself, any half intelligent boxer would have said 'no thank you'. Broner being Broner, decided to burn the bridge, drive away future offers from other promoters, and highlight himself as an idiot.

[Tutsa]

You missed the point. Broner is a fighter on a negative streak, Hearn offered him stability at least over next 3 fights.

All promoters take cuts. Going from promoter A to promoter B changes very little.

Nobody knows for sure that Broner is making more money by himself. If you check out all of the official purses from his fights, he's nowhere close, and the fights are NOT on PPV. He made 1m vs. Vargas (link). 1m vs. Garcia (link) and 1m vs. Granados (link)

And again, even if he is making more by himself, any half intelligent boxer would have said 'no thank you'. Broner being Broner, decided to burn the bridge, drive away future offers from other promoters, and highlight himself as an idiot.

When was broner intelligent I still can't believe people tune in or pay to watch this guy fight .. I think it's more like a train wreck waiting to happen , people want to see the impact !! I think he knows this that's why he twitted hearns contract to keep people talking !! Casual fans don't know the difference in level fighters like us here on NBS !! Guy had so much potential but the rocks in his head destroyed it !

[MONGOOSE66]

Doctors have careers that span over 30 years though just to put things into context. I don't disagree with your point, but I wanted to highlight the salaries of different athletes and how their earning potential is short lived.

I make 1 million every 20 years. Your right. Poor Broner

[LacedUp]

If you're to make an offer to one of the biggest draws in the sport of boxing today, you need to do your homework. Period.

Why would Eddie bring up numbers like this without first figuring out what Broner is actually making? Why didn't Eddie request a sit down with Broner to talk and discuss numbers, and then throw an offer?

Why would you as a promoter, approach a fighter of Broner's magnitude through email and the first thing you do is throw out numbers that aren't even spectacular and expect a positive response from it?

I'm not saying 6.75mil for 3 fights isn't a good contract, but Broner is CLEARLY making more then that on a per fight basis with no contract at all. If you're going to come with a contract, you need the approach that Roc Nation took; throw out a crazy number like 40 mil for a certain amount of fights. Even THAT got turned down by Broner.


My biggest problem with all of this is lack of research/backround information. You wouldn't make yourself look this ****** had you done that, if you are Eddie Hearn in this case.

How is he clearly making more than that? How is it clear? This is his fight purse - His previous biggest fight purse was less than Eddie's biggest official fight purse offer.

Those are just facts.

Whatever you think you know, you don't really know. You're just coming out with all kinds of stuff that isn't backed up.

[MONGOOSE66]

Doctors have careers that span over 30 years though just to put things into context. I don't disagree with your point, but I wanted to highlight the salaries of different athletes and how their earning potential is short lived.

An average doctor makes 6 million in 40 years. Your right. I have tears coming to my eyes for Broner.

[LacedUp]

I haven't seen anything showing that Broner is making more than $2m per fight. Even if he is by some miracle, he sure as hell isn't making $10M per fight. Maybe it's 2.5, or 3.5m max. Hearn is guaranteeing him salary over 3 fights.

Broner can decline and say 'eh, I'll take my chances that I can earn more by myself over next 3 fights'. Calling it a 'slave contract' is Broner being a sensationalistic moron once again.

Broner is an idiot and on a bad streak for years.

No idea what he's making, but who else will pay him 2mil+ for fighting some lww bum no one has heard of?

[bballchump11]

An average doctor makes 6 million in 40 years. Your right. I have tears coming to my eyes for Broner.

You didn't get the point of my point. That's ok. Proceed with talking ****

[lolpz]

How is he clearly making more than that? How is it clear? This is his fight purse - His previous biggest fight purse was less than Eddie's biggest official fight purse offer.

Those are just facts.

Whatever you think you know, you don't really know. You're just coming out with all kinds of stuff that isn't backed up.

I'm simply putting 2 and 2 together.

The fact Broner called it a "slave contract", the fact Broner is one of the very few BIG draws in the sport, the fact that people who can't draw half of what he does - make the "same" 1Mil purse as he "does" (atleast what's reported)

Last by not least, the FACT that the head of Showtime sports is publicly alluding to Broner making much more then what was offered.

The fact that Mayweather's check for the Pacquiao fight was 100Million, and we all know he made triple that amount. He also has not even cashed that check yet, to this day. He still has it.

I'm not asking of people to "learn the business of boxing", just to be aware that things are not what it looks like to the public eye. It is no "conspiracy theory" it is the truth.