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  • Eddy Current
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    #11
    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
    1. Bud Crawford
    2. GG
    3. Canelo
    4. M Garcia
    5. Thurman
    6. Loma
    7. Inoue
    8. Kov
    9. Gassiev
    10. Hurd

    A big fight away: Usyk, Wilder, Joshua, Jermall Charlo, Saunders, Horn, Rungvisai, D Garcia, Spence, Santa Cruz

    Fighters to watch: Benavides, Valdez, Russell Jr, Berchelt, Davis, Prograis, J Ramirez, Porter, Jermell Charlo, G Ramirez, Bivol, Beterbiev, Gvozdyk,
    I would swap Hurd and Kovalev but other than that agree.

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    • Raggamuffin
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      #12
      Originally posted by Julia Slobberts
      I would swap Hurd and Kovalev but other than that agree.
      My man lol...

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      • Real King Kong
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        #13
        hurd

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        • boliodogs
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          #14
          You are in charge of your list to arrange anyway you wish. Most lists have Loma number 1 because he fights so well and just kicks ass on excellent fighters. Thurman seems way too high to me. He just barely beat Danny Garcia and Porter and they aren't all that good, plus he has not fought at all in a very long time. Spence is up near the top of my pfp best list. He fights at 147 pounds like Crawford and Thurman and I think he would KO both of them.

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          • Raggamuffin
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            #15
            Originally posted by boliodogs
            You are in charge of your list to arrange anyway you wish. Most lists have Loma number 1 because he fights so well and just kicks ass on excellent fighters. Thurman seems way too high to me. He just barely beat Danny Garcia and Porter and they aren't all that good, plus he has not fought at all in a very long time. Spence is up near the top of my pfp best list. He fights at 147 pounds like Crawford and Thurman and I think he would KO both of them.
            Loma being ranked where he’s at is a good ranking. A couple of his diehard fans are hurt but they haven’t done the math on his resume. He lost and his comp is being overrated.

            He hasn’t beaten a lineal champion or unified the belts. Imo I jumped him a bit too high based off of the Rigo win, but then again beating a pfp when you’re not ranked pfp deserves respect.

            To me Spence just hasn’t fought anyone who I deem worth h of a pfp ranking. But he is looking to fight the best. It just has to happen. Thurman hasn’t lost and I value his wins over Garcia who was pfp ranked on my list, and his win over Porter.

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            • JohnCastellanos
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              #16
              Move up so you can prove your beating guys only because of your size! If he can move up 8 lbs and beat someone credible then he’s P4P! But till then he’s just a regular boxer with a lot of hype backing him up

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              • chrisJS
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                #17
                Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                Loma being ranked where he’s at is a good ranking. A couple of his diehard fans are hurt but they haven’t done the math on his resume. He lost and his comp is being overrated.

                He hasn’t beaten a lineal champion or unified the belts. Imo I jumped him a bit too high based off of the Rigo win, but then again beating a pfp when you’re not ranked pfp deserves respect.

                To me Spence just hasn’t fought anyone who I deem worth h of a pfp ranking. But he is looking to fight the best. It just has to happen. Thurman hasn’t lost and I value his wins over Garcia who was pfp ranked on my list, and his win over Porter.
                There's not been a lineal champion in any of his weight classes so hard to defeat one. He did earn the #1 in every division by beating the consensus #1 in each division. That's all that could be asked of him really. Pacquaio moved out of the divisions and Crawford did at 135 (he didn't beat a lineal champ to get it either because Marquez moved out the division so he didn't beat anyone lineal to become lineal). Flawed logic. Lineal is almost useless apart from at Heavyweight because it's so common for fighters to bounce around in weight.

                You hold unbeaten records in very high regard and he's defeated 6 world champions of which 3 were unbeaten. I think on your list that you'd struggle to find more than 3 (perhaps even more than 1 or 2) that have defeated more champions and undefeated one's. For example Crawford has defeated 5 champions of which 3 were undefeated though none were pound for pound.

                Sometimes if it becomes too confusing just look at the levels of the opponents and the guys talent level/ overall skill set. Spence isn't top 20 on resume but he's clearly a top 10 fighter. Loma probably is #1 resume currently and he's almost certainly #1 on skill set. But I get it. You've got your agendas to push and can't fully support your rules for every fighter only when it's used against the one's you dislike. No big deal.

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                • Raggamuffin
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by chrisJS
                  There's not been a lineal champion in any of his weight classes so hard to defeat one. He did earn the #1 in every division by beating the consensus #1 in each division. That's all that could be asked of him really. Pacquaio moved out of the divisions and Crawford did at 135 (he didn't beat a lineal champ to get it either because Marquez moved out the division so he didn't beat anyone lineal to become lineal). Flawed logic. Lineal is almost useless apart from at Heavyweight because it's so common for fighters to bounce around in weight.

                  You hold unbeaten records in very high regard and he's defeated 6 world champions of which 3 were unbeaten. I think on your list that you'd struggle to find more than 3 (perhaps even more than 1 or 2) that have defeated more champions and undefeated one's. For example Crawford has defeated 5 champions of which 3 were undefeated though none were pound for pound.

                  Sometimes if it becomes too confusing just look at the levels of the opponents and the guys talent level/ overall skill set. Spence isn't top 20 on resume but he's clearly a top 10 fighter. Loma probably is #1 resume currently and he's almost certainly #1 on skill set. But I get it. You've got your agendas to push and can't fully support your rules for every fighter only when it's used against the one's you dislike. No big deal.
                  Your logic is flawed and what you said about Spence is why you rank Loma so high. Flawed logic.

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                  • Lewisstewart1
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                    #19
                    Have to agree with other posters this list is rather poor. Agree with Triple G but nearly choked when I seen Crawford and Canelo that high, Kovalev top 10 as well? He got beat off ward A SMW twice! Gassiev in the list but no Usyk? Come on! Thurman as well he’s not been active enough

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                    • Raggamuffin
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                      #20
                      Loma ranking 6th with only 12 fights is a helluva accomplishment and I’m being bashed by his fans lol...

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