How do you see Loma-Duran at 135 going?

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  • Nay_Sayer
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    #141
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
    Duran was a 21 yr old kid when he lost to an excellent young fighter in De Jesus, he then avenged the defeat 2 yrs later. Duran is the GOAT lightweight, no debate...

    Another idiot who DKSAB 😭😭
    De Jesus > Orlando Salido

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      #142
      Duran is a guy who carried his punch all the way up to middleweight and is one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time and has great speed. I think he'd rough Loma up and knock him out.

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        #143
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
        Ortiz is my #2 all time at 135
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        I can accept Duran as the #1 at 135 in history but some historians would suggest Benny Leonard and I think Carlos Ortiz has a great claim too. I think Ortiz was good enough to even beat the best Duran at the weight and his resume at the weight perhaps has more depth if not quite the dominant run.
        Good shout on Ortiz. One of my favourite boxing articles, in case you haven't seen it, is 'Miracle on 29th Street' - about Carlos Ortiz. A really good read. http://www.boxing.com/carlos_ortiz_m...h_street1.html

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        • Nay_Sayer
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          #144
          Originally posted by Red Skull
          Why couldn't he beat Sugar Ray Leonard in the rematch?
          Was it because Sugar Ray Leonard changed up his style or was it because duurrrrrrr he knew he wasn't training... uughhhhh Duran forgot how to cut off the ring that night

          Duran fought some excellent guys but he was losing rounds at 135 and he was in plenty of close fights, y'all trying make him out as if he had a Wladimir Klitschko reign of dominance down there.
          Sit the f**k down.
          I'm debating with an idiot.

          Come back when you have 1/2 of a working brain cell...

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            #145
            Originally posted by 4truth
            We're talking 135. After Duran fought and beat SRL @147 he was 72-1. Duran's 1 loss being avenged by a KO.
            With all due respect to the 72-1 record. Let's look at it more closer.

            At least 45 of those wins had either losing records, less than 10 wins or 8 or more losses on their resume.

            If we take out those 45 wins (there were still lots of not so amazing records left such as 15-7, 121-55-19, 19-5...), you are left with 27 good wins.

            The average record of those 27 wins were 29-5. Not bad, but not great either!

            Loma's average record (without Salido, same courtesy I gave Duran taking out his 45 less than great wins) is 28-2. ALL Champions except one.

            Undefeated fighters Duran beat during his 72-1 reign. Just ONE.

            Loma has already beaten 3 undefeated Champions, not just fighters.

            Duran is great, but Loma ain't chop liver and given time, who knows. Loma needs more fights to be compared to Duran, but it's early.

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            • Cheerios36
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              #146
              Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
              Leonard has Ws over Benitez, Duran, Hearns and Hagler.

              WHO in the hell has Lomafako ever beaten?

              Like I said, not qualified to carry Leonard's jock strap...
              To say he isn't qualified when he is the world's BADASS right now is a little harsh.

              He doesn't have the resume YET, but that's cause he just turned 30.

              By Loma's age right now (30), Sugar Ray was 2-1 against Duran and Hearns. So give Loma time to carry someone's jockstrap.

              Sugar Ray is my all time fav, but Loma's is on his was to be an ATG as well. NOT Yet though imo.

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                #147
                Originally posted by satiev1
                Duran wasn't god. He got knocked the **** out by hearns and outboxed several times by fighters not on lomo's level. Lomachenko would no mas duran.
                I wager that Hearn would knock out Lomachenko also

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by bballchump11
                  I wager that Hearn would knock out Lomachenko also
                  Duran has shown multiple times he can be outboxed by very good technicians. Benitez is another guy as well. No one knows who would win but not far fetched to say lomo would.

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                  • Cheerios36
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by bballchump11
                    I wager that Hearn would knock out Lomachenko also
                    Well, considering that Hearns fought for the Cruiser weight Title and is 6'1, that's not saying much.

                    Now if you want to bet if Hearns can get down to 126 and fight Loma, I'd take that bet!

                    Both bets don't make much sense.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by chrisJS
                      I'd favor Loma over Marquez (my favorite fighter of all-time), Barrera, Morales, Pacquaio at their bests but Duran? I can't do that.
                      Man are you serious?






                      Do you know what those guys would do to him? You see how many times Linares was landing that left uppercut? You don't think Marquez would be having a field day?

                      Linares doesn't even hit that hard.

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