How do you see Loma-Duran at 135 going?

[TonyGe]

Ah, I knew it was non-title, didn't know it was not 135. According to BoxRec (not the most reliable source I know), Duran was 137.5, and DeJesus was 138. You learn something every day

Duran was out of proper shape and couldn't make the weight.

[TonyGe]

Loma is pretty damn skilled himself, not sure why people are acting like it is a ridiculous fight..Duran lost to lesser fighters

What lesser fighters at Lightweight did he lose to? He lost to DeJesus in the first fight. DeJesus was a very very good fighter in his own right. Duran didn't make weight for that first fight because his discipline wasn't what it should have been.

[Santa_]

Hmmm, Salido leftovers VS the greatest Lightweight of all time, tough call

[FinitoxDinamita]

I see Duran turning Loma into his btch by the mid rounds.

[TonyGe]

Yeah. Have you seen me say I think Loma would beat Duran on balance of probability? No. Because I ain't said that, nor is it at all the point I was trying to make. All I was trying to say is that people need to be wary about just how high a pedestal they put ATG fighters on. These guys are human and can be beaten... Duran, no matter how great he was, was beaten at LW.

There is no fighter I enjoy watching more than Duran and he is probably my favourite fighter of all time, but yes, he could be beaten and if Dejesus could beat him then so, potentially, could numerous others.

Potentially the world could end tomorrow. If DeJesus could beat him numerous others could?? DeJesus was one hell of a fighter. Who did Loma fight that was as good as DeJesus?? Seriously. DeJesus had a record of 58 wins and 5 loses..

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

Duran was out of proper shape and couldn't make the weight.

I know he was in a car crash just before DeJesus I, but I don't really know the details. Do you know much more about it?

I heard variously that the car crash was in Sept. of that year (in which case Duran would've fought two other times between the crash and meeting DeJesus), but also that the crash was just before the DeJesus fight? I also saw that some described Duran as having a 'hole in his elbow' but I don't know the true extent of any injuries. Was he just partying too much?

In any case, Duran was certainly human, and like any human, he is beatable. In the case of DeJesus I, and definitely Leonard II, however, it seems not so much a case of Duran being beaten by the other guy, but rather a case of Duran not taking sufficient care of himself. But this unpredictability is part of Duran's charm, he lived big.

It's worth bearing in mind that Duran fought a lot more than we can ever expect Loma to fight, and in 15-round fights too. In all, I think Duran's evidently huge passion for the fighting game puts him as an ATG, whereas we are still yet to see if Loma fits that category (some say yes, already, but I think it premature)

[M Bison]

I’m a HUGE Loma fan but that is straight BS😭😭😭😭😭

Go and actually watch a few Duran fights, then you’ll understand.

It's all myth at this point, what you saw of Duran at 135 was impressive, but Duran never fought anyone near that level that Lomachenko brings at that weight the closest he got to that was Sugar Ray Leonard and we all seen what happened when SRL got his tactics on point, Duran quit.

I mean you can go off of the Salido angle and hope that a referee would allow Duran to do foul play roughhouse stuff that isn't by the book, but right now with Loma being Arums biggest star we all know that kind of thing wont be allowed to happen again, Salido got Mexican privilege that first time we all know it.

[M Bison]

Duran was out of proper shape and couldn't make the weight.

Yes and whose fault is that, excuses don't cut it.

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

It's all myth at this point, what you saw of Duran at 135 was impressive, but Duran never fought anyone near that level that Lomachenko brings at that weight the closest he got to that was Sugar Ray Leonard and we all seen what happened when SRL got his tactics on point, Duran quit.

I mean you can go off of the Salido angle and hope that a referee would allow Duran to do foul play roughhouse stuff that isn't by the book, but right now with Loma being Arums biggest star we all know that kind of thing wont be allowed to happen again, Salido got Mexican privilege that first time we all know it.

As far as I know, Leonard was very keen for the rematch to occur quickly when he heard that Duran had been partying and ballooning up in size. And for whatever reason, bad management maybe, machismo perhaps, Duran took the rematch without leaving enough time to get in shape. That is not Leonard getting his 'tactics on point', that is Duran letting himself down

[Coach.billy]

Too easy!!

Loma will get the easy W.