Agree Or Dis-Agree With My BreakDown Of Mikey Advantages Over Lomachenko?

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  • BLASTER1
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    #21
    Originally posted by McNulty
    I agree. Also worth mentioning, Mikey is too big. Not sure if people know, but Mikey has been sparring big names since he was a kid. I think his experience vs pro's in fights and sparring makes a big difference.

    Lomo's defense is pretty bad too. Linares was hitting dude with left hooks, combinations, rights down the pipe, etc. I think Broner is a bit slick and Garcia had his way with him.

    Arum is laying the groundwork now with the duck. Only thing that makes this fight happen is the fans.
    Not sure if you know but Loma has been sparring big guys aswell.
    (Not sure what point your trying to make when most great fighters train above their weight.)
    Lomas defence is on par or better than any fighter out their today.
    Would you still say this if Linares didnt score a kd?
    Linares was throwing flurries which look good but how much did they really hurt the smaller Loma.
    Really you comparing Broner to Loma.
    Enough said.

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    • Zaroku
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      #22
      Mikey is too big for Loma. Loma won’t be able to turn Mikey like he does to other fighters.
      Salido laid on him and worked him over. In the clinches, Mikey will maul the little dude.

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      • RomanReigns
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        #23
        Mickey via TKO in the later rounds.

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        • Willy Wanker
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          #24
          Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
          Mikey is a master at distance and keeping range (which nullify
          angles, one of lomachenko greatest weapons.)

          Mikey is a master at timing (which nullifies speed, one of lomachenko core weapons).

          Mikey is a master counterpuncher (which nullifies A fighter tenacity, one of lomachenko trademark trait in the ring)

          Mikey is the bigger puncher (which nullifies Volume, one of lomachenko weapons in the ring)

          Mikey is a master at controlling pace (which nullifies volum and intensity, one of lomachenkos trait inside that ring)

          Mikey is the proven fighter with bigger punchers (which nullifies lomachenko likihood to hurt Mikey)

          Mikey is more experience as a pro (Which gives mikey the advantages of knowing what he can and cant do and when and where he can do it, when to turn up in a round and when not to etc etc)

          Good points made, I can see Mikey having those advantages.

          I'm not so sure Mikey has the advantage over Loma when it comes to keeping his distance and range or at controlling the pace. Those are attributes that Loma is very good as well. Mikey is a little more proven though.

          Size, power, and timing are the keys to victory for Mikey. Loma has lapses in defense that Mikey can take advantage of. He's really gonna have to pull every trick in his book to beat a bigger and very skilled Garcia.

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          • McNulty
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            #25
            Originally posted by BLASTER1
            Not sure if you know but Loma has been sparring big guys aswell.

            (Not sure what point your trying to make when most great fighters train above their weight.)

            Lomas defence is on par or better than any fighter out their today.

            Would you still say this if Linares didnt score a kd?

            Linares was throwing flurries which look good but how much did they really hurt the smaller Loma.

            Really you comparing Broner to Loma.

            Enough said.
            I fixed your lack of formatting, your original post was hard to look at. You are welcome!

            I'm not talking about big fighters, I'm talking about big names. Names doesn't mean bodies otherwise I would have noted as such. If you're going to debate me, read the words I fùcking posted, not change them up - capisce?

            Garcia has been sparring champs since he was a kid. Garcia's experience overshadows Lomo's. I don't give a fùck about 400 amateur fights because I used to fight in the Am's and a lot of these big records are more than half Junior Olympic fights. I don't count kiddy fights.

            Lomo's defense (not defence) is shít. If you think that's good defense, you either DKSAB or are in the middle of performing fellatio on Lomo or someone you're pretending is Lomo.

            Of course I would have said the same thing if there was no KD, that's the cherry on top sonny. For a southpaw to get hit time and time again with standalone left hooks from an orthodox opponent, that's a terrible defense.

            Also, Lomo was getting his with big volume combinations which zero defense after getting hit with the first shot. He just hung there on pause. I saw another fighter with this issue, Antoine Douglas (watch the Sullivan loss) and something is wrong with that kids brain. Might be premature to claim this for Lomo, but I've hardly seen this in watching over 7k fights in my time.

            For the record, those were not flurries, but combinations. Flurries are more of an unconscious affair, whereas combinations are completey calculated and conscious.

            Broner has much better reflexes than Lomo does and his defense is much better as well. Not sure how you can't see this, actually I see clearly why you can't see this. YDKSAB.

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            • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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              #26
              Originally posted by RomanReigns
              Mickey via TKO in the later rounds.
              its how I see it too.

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              • xhiddenx87
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                #27
                Mikey advantages over lomachenko:

                - Size
                -Power

                End of the story.

                I like both mikey and lomachenko and I want to see this fight happen as soon as possible.

                According to the OP, loma will only stand in there because mikey will nullify every asset of this game , lol.

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                • Billy T
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                  #28
                  Loma is faster, better foot work, better athlete, and has better combinations.
                  Mikey is bigger, stronger, has better timing, better chin, and better power.
                  Coaching is on Mikey’s side. Robert is better than Lomas Dad.
                  Mental toughness and discipline is on Mikey’s side.
                  Loma is one of a kind. No one 135 lbs, except Mikey, has a prayer of beating him.
                  Loma make fighter who have never lost become frustrated and quit in their corner.
                  He was on his way to doing that to Linares until he got smoked with that right. It gave Linares new life.
                  If Mikey hits him with a clean right, Loma will wake up in next week.
                  I think Mikey and Robert are the smartest team tha Loma will face. They will know that he will be tough to hit and he will hit Mikey with more punches. They will also know that with Mikey timing and power the punches that he land will do far more damage. They will impact Loma in a way that he has not had to face in the past.
                  This is going to be the fight that we all hoped for in PAC vs Money. Both guys are warriors and come to fight. It maybe a pick um fight. I think that Mikey’s timing, smarts, corner, toughness, and power results in a KO win for him. I cannot wait to see the fight and I like both fighters. Let’s hope this fight gets made this year.
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                  • Shrap
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                    #29
                    I agree with a lot of what you've said. However, I think both are masters of controlling the pace; Loma always throws others off and forces them into his fight with his footwork, angles and workrate. I doubt either of them will hold the pace throughout the fight and they'll both be working hard.

                    Also with timing: Mikey is exceptional, but Loma has so much variety there I doubt Mikey will be able to continuously time him.

                    This fight is at the highest level that can be made right now and it will be a chess match for sure. I'm expecting the unexpected. Mikey has arguably the best fundamentals in the sport, and Loma has the best technical abilities. Both are exceptional and they will bring the best out of each other.

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                    • minemax
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                      #30
                      In essence, I would say it like this — they both are very good boxers, but what's different between them is:
                      Mikey has timing, but Loma has speed;
                      Mikey has power, but Loma is extremely well conditioned.

                      It should be a very interesting fight (if it ever happens, unfortunately... )

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