Agree Or Dis-Agree With My BreakDown Of Mikey Advantages Over Lomachenko?

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  • Randomum
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    #11
    Mikey is a master at distance and keeping range (which nullify
    angles, one of lomachenko greatest weapons.) I think Loma is too quick for Mikey's slow foot speed, Mikey isalways on balance so that could nullify some of the success Loma gets with launching multiple punch combos while he uses his footspeed in this they are about equal

    Mikey is a master at timing (which nullifies speed, one of lomachenko core weapons). I think Mikey is better at timing, he is also slower but timing beats speed, at least upper body wise

    Mikey is a master counterpuncher (which nullifies A fighter tenacity, one of lomachenko trademark trait in the ring)I think Mikey is a better counter puncher and his style will match up well with Loma

    Mikey is the bigger puncher (which nullifies Volume, one of lomachenko weapons in the ring)I believe Mikey is a much bigger puncher than Loma, but lately Loma is showing some punching power

    Mikey is a master at controlling pace (which nullifies volum and intensity, one of lomachenkos trait inside that ring)I think this is where Loma actually shines all of the recent fighters quitting against him (I also feel Linares sort of quit) I think them quitting had more to do with fatigue than anything else. Just to keep up with Loma these dudes are dead by the 5th round. Loma's stamina and pressure attack are something that I think will test Mikey. Mikey is a super efficient fighter but I don't know if he can score against Loma in the slower rounds, unless he is landing big bombs, and I think Loma's footspeed will keep that from happening.

    Mikey is the proven fighter with bigger punchers (which nullifies lomachenko likihood to hurt Mikey)I think in the Linares fight we saw that at this weight Loma's chin is vulnerable. At this weight his opponents can hurt him, and put him down. I think Mikey can definitely hurt Loma.

    Mikey is more experience as a pro (Which gives mikey the advantages of knowing what he can and cant do and when and where he can do it, when to turn up in a round and when not to etc etc)I don't think there is as much of a gap here as many think. Loma's amateur career has also given him a lot of experience than people think. (Yeah I get it different formats between amateurs, and pros but still..)

    I think a fight between both ends in either a KO by Mikey, or a decision by Loma.

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    • daggum
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      #12
      mikey is a master at fighting slow fighters.

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      • daggum
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        #13
        Originally posted by McNulty
        I agree. Also worth mentioning, Mikey is too big. Not sure if people know, but Mikey has been sparring big names since he was a kid. I think his experience vs pro's in fights and sparring makes a big difference.

        Lomo's defense is pretty bad too. Linares was hitting dude with left hooks, combinations, rights down the pipe, etc. I think Broner is a bit slick and Garcia had his way with him.

        Arum is laying the groundwork now with the duck. Only thing that makes this fight happen is the fans.
        this is the silliest thing ever. linares rarely connected cleanly at least to the head. he had some good body shots and yes that right hand and combo were nice. besides that loma was slipping almost everything and that equals bad defense? loma was in the pocket for ten rounds and linares who has never been outboxed in a fight was outboxed and his amazing speed/combination punching netted 2 good moments.

        also what about every other loma fight where he was untouched. linares hits him a couple times and his defense is pretty bad hmm ok. lets watch the first 2 rounds of mosley and first 4 of the judah fight. wow floyd has terrible defense!

        broner slick? in what universe. he just stood there with his gloves up. you think that is slick...
        Last edited by daggum; 05-15-2018, 12:52 AM.

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        • Mexican_Puppet
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          #14
          I agree with all the Points

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          • alexguiness
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            #15
            I'd pick Mikey over Lomo.

            As good as Lomo is, he would not control the pace against Mikey.

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            • Citizen Koba
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              #16
              Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
              Mikey is a master at distance and keeping range (which nullify
              angles, one of lomachenko greatest weapons.)

              Mikey is a master at timing (which nullifies speed, one of lomachenko core weapons).

              Mikey is a master counterpuncher (which nullifies A fighter tenacity, one of lomachenko trademark trait in the ring)

              Mikey is the bigger puncher (which nullifies Volume, one of lomachenko weapons in the ring)

              Mikey is a master at controlling pace (which nullifies volum and intensity, one of lomachenkos trait inside that ring)

              Mikey is the proven fighter with bigger punchers (which nullifies lomachenko likihood to hurt Mikey)

              Mikey is more experience as a pro (Which gives mikey the advantages of knowing what he can and cant do and when and where he can do it, when to turn up in a round and when not to etc etc)
              All good and valid points. Now here's a challenge for you. Can you do a similar breakdown highlighting Lomachenko's advantages and his routes to victory?

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              • Tony Trick-Pony
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                #17
                When you start off with Mikey is a master..., it's hard to take this seriously. Sorry, bruh.

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                • Lomasexual
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                  #18
                  It's an interesting way of breaking down the relative strengths. I suppose that it could have been written in reverse too. I.E. Loma is a master of angles, which nullifies orthodox boxers.

                  The question is how well Mikey can do with each of them. I.E. is he master enough to nullify what Loma brings to the table?

                  The last point is an interesting one. A lot of people here have been trying to diminish Loma's achievement in getting a title in his third weight division in 12 pro fights, by pointing to his age instead - trying to imply that Loma is just as experienced as fighters who are the same age he is, and therefore his achievement is meaningless.
                  If that was true, then Mikey's extra pro experience is meaningless. However, I think pro experience is different. I think this was amply demonstrated in Loma's second fight. Pro fight experience is simply better. The flip side of it though is that it also wears a fighter down faster (not that I think this will be an issue for Mikey for a few more years)

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                  • BillyBoxing
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
                    Mikey is a master at distance and keeping range (which nullify
                    angles, one of lomachenko greatest weapons.)

                    Mikey is a master at timing (which nullifies speed, one of lomachenko core weapons).

                    Mikey is a master counterpuncher (which nullifies A fighter tenacity, one of lomachenko trademark trait in the ring)

                    Mikey is the bigger puncher (which nullifies Volume, one of lomachenko weapons in the ring)

                    Mikey is a master at controlling pace (which nullifies volum and intensity, one of lomachenkos trait inside that ring)

                    Mikey is the proven fighter with bigger punchers (which nullifies lomachenko likihood to hurt Mikey)

                    Mikey is more experience as a pro (Which gives mikey the advantages of knowing what he can and cant do and when and where he can do it, when to turn up in a round and when not to etc etc)
                    Hard to deny your points, and I would favor Mickey at this point.

                    But Mickey is a master of those things against Dejan Zlacatin and Serguei Lipinets.

                    I will be harder to control all those things versus Lomo.

                    Starting with controlling the pace because of Mickey lower work rate, starting with distance and keeping range Lomo is harder to find than Broner sitting duck cement footed style

                    Mickey is slower than Loma and even slower than Linares.

                    the main Mickey's advantage is his size, dude walking at 175 like he told Sekhback.

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                    • BillyBoxing
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
                      its a copy and paste of a post I made in a thread topic where the OP was asking whats all these great trait mikey has that is better than lomas.
                      The thing about Mickey is he doesn't have Linares speed and athleticism.
                      Linares can move fast and throw fast combos.
                      That's what worried Loma here.
                      And Linares prepared for Loma, had just fought 2 southpaws in Gesta and Campbell.

                      Mickey versus Loma will be a different fight.

                      It will be slower, more boring and like a chess match.
                      I see Mickey dropping Loma but beating him by UD because of the KD points.

                      I agree that Mickey would breakdown quicker Loma's style and angles than Linares. He's also stronger than Linares, + the timing of his punch, he might sleep Loma for the count.

                      Look Mickey versus Lipinets, Loma his as tall as Lipinets with a bit less of reach.

                      People thinking Mickey will have a much easier time with Loma than Lipi are nuts. Despite being smaller and so not as strong ass Lipi, Loma is a master boxer and HE KNOWS what Mickey brings to the table, will fight differently.

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