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  • #51
    Originally posted by Elroy The Great View Post
    we all know quality wins vs QUALITY OPPs when we see them.

    if a person is a fan enough to make a thread about their guy, that fan should be honest about shlt.

    imho, may is in the top 5 ATG....just dont ask me to put a number on him.

    loma can be in that atg clique IN TIME. if he retires right now, nah.

    may is my dude and i like loma.

    i dont like it when fans make more out of a win that it deserves....and then want to argue !!!
    So again I ask do you not think Loma is a great fighter now?

    F#ck corny ass #5 sh^t. There is lil doubt in my mind you've not seen enough film of great fighters to know something like Floyd is in the top 5 all time. That silly kid sh^t to think of great fighters like that. That you can somehow rank them despite seeing so few great fighters on film and with the complication of guys ranging time periods of over 100 years to the point some great fights don't even have film of there fights.

    Boxing fans are so egotistical with there bs with all time rankings. You are all f#cking hacks at it and among the worst people in the world to critique great fighters vs each other cuz you got so many biases and don't even grasp the hugeness of your blindspots with this debate.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
      So again I ask do you not think Loma is a great fighter now?

      F#ck corny ass #5 sh^t. There is lil doubt in my mind you've not seen enough film of great fighters to know something like Floyd is in the top 5 all time. That silly kid sh^t to think of great fighters like that. That you can somehow rank them despite seeing so few great fighters on film and with the complication of guys ranging time periods of over 100 years to the point some great fights don't even have film of there fights.

      Boxing fans are so egotistical with there bs with all time rankings. You are all f#cking hacks at it and among the worst people in the world to critique great fighters vs each other cuz you got so many biases and don't even grasp the hugeness of your blindspots with this debate.
      Eff pandas with the realness and the knowledge,respect

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
        So again I ask do you not think Loma is a great fighter now?

        F#ck corny ass #5 sh^t. There is lil doubt in my mind you've not seen enough film of great fighters to know something like Floyd is in the top 5 all time. That silly kid sh^t to think of great fighters like that. That you can somehow rank them despite seeing so few great fighters on film and with the complication of guys ranging time periods of over 100 years to the point some great fights don't even have film of there fights.

        Boxing fans are so egotistical with there bs with all time rankings. You are all f#cking hacks at it and among the worst people in the world to critique great fighters vs each other cuz you got so many biases and don't even grasp the hugeness of your blindspots with this debate.
        youre a cool cat but what makes you think your opinions ranks above others
        i say yes, you say no....uummm......

        youre caught in your own trap (bold)

        i almost completely disregard the way back when era. those were some piss poor resumes. i suggest those critiquing the critics give resumes an honest once over. i have a bias for giving those without hardly any footage props just because it was written up that way. but lo and behold, thats exactly what so called hardcore boxing fans do.

        i have may in the group of 5 all time. youre not compelled to do likewise.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Elroy The Great View Post
          while loma may very well be the goods, ranking grj, walters and linares ''elite'' is a stretch and rigo was too small.

          good/vg wins no question.
          but Loma wasn't to small for linares?

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          • #55
            Walters was not ranked p4p when he fought loma. Stop lying sir

            Linares is Loma's best win though and he is p4p #1 imo

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            • #56
              Originally posted by nacho daddy View Post
              but Loma wasn't to small for linares?
              evidently not.

              and linares been around the gktfo block before.

              and i still say those dudes are not elite.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Elroy The Great View Post
                evidently not.

                and linares been around the gktfo block before.

                and i still say those dudes are not elite.
                in that fight linares looked like he was fighting his 12 year old son. and I say mikey Garcia is ducking linares

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by A.K View Post
                  - the can effect
                  How?

                  Walters has never been ranked P4P that's a fact.

                  You saying he was is nothing but mere fantasy and just not true.

                  Why the need to lie? Why the need to boost Loma's resume by making out one of his opponents was something he wasn't? Walter's is a good fighter and an impressive win but he wasn't on the P4P list. Fact.

                  There's no "can effect" in that scenario it's just simply a lie to say he was.
                  Last edited by IronDanHamza; 05-14-2018, 05:27 PM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Randall Cunning View Post
                    Not sure.

                    He wasn't on The Ring's though.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by A.K View Post
                      Russell jr - most posters ask who’s he like he don’t have the fastest hands in the sport

                      Walters - he was undefeated around the #8-10 ranked p4p fighter in the sport before he fought Loma and most posters thought he would school Loma but now he doesn’t even wanna fight no more.

                      Rigo - he’s been on most people’s p4p list since 2013 but now they’re calling him ringo and can’t remember his name and the fact they picked him once again to school Loma.

                      Linares - he’s a huge step up in weight and one of the best stragetical boxers in the sport who Mikey has ducked for years, but now he’s reduced to a mediocre champ.

                      The cycle never ends when Mikey is beat he will be known as the guy who never fought a elite and they will want Loma at welter to fight Crawford when the guys body size can’t go much further than 140. The hate will never end just embrace the greatness It’s floyd, Pac, and ggg all over again.
                      I'm not going to read through the entire thread but if you haven't noticed that on nsb, when you lose, you're a bum. No matter what you've done or what you're career turns out to be. It is not the due to Loma or his victories.

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