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  • #41
    Originally posted by Metho_4u View Post
    You aren't getting it. Ward, to my knowledge, never brought up golovkin's name first. All I recall is Ward doing commentary and max or Jim had asked him if he would ever fight him, and Ward, like any fighter, said of course.
    Ok. So Ward really didn't want the fight, he was just pressured into answering a question

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    • #42
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      yes max is a fanboy we know that. he sets unbelievably high standards for guys he doesnt like(why didn't ggg fight like that against jacobs/canelo) but then for guys he loves like ward he never says that. he never says why didnt he fight kovalev the way he fought paul smith?? he actually praises ward for "adapting" and winning a tough fight even if its a total robbery. no such praise for ggg cause hes a knockout artist. its just total fanboy stuff.

      whatever happens he already has an excuse to flip it. ggg looks meh oh wow hes overrated. ward looks meh wow he was tested and came through! ward looks great wow ward is amazing. ggg looks great well thats what hes supposed to do.

      ggg why didn't you go and knock out jacobs and canelo hmmm you aren't that good after all. like its possible to knock out every single opponent thats ridiculous. ward you didn't even win but wow you are so great.
      This right here is absolutely true

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      • #43
        Originally posted by daggum View Post
        yes max is a fanboy we know that. he sets unbelievably high standards for guys he doesnt like(why didn't ggg fight like that against jacobs/canelo) but then for guys he loves like ward he never says that. he never says why didnt he fight kovalev the way he fought paul smith?? he actually praises ward for "adapting" and winning a tough fight even if its a total robbery. no such praise for ggg cause hes a knockout artist. its just total fanboy stuff.

        whatever happens he already has an excuse to flip it. ggg looks meh oh wow hes overrated. ward looks meh wow he was tested and came through! ward looks great wow ward is amazing. ggg looks great well thats what hes supposed to do.

        ggg why didn't you go and knock out jacobs and canelo hmmm you aren't that good after all. like its possible to knock out every single opponent thats ridiculous. ward you didn't even win but wow you are so great.
        maybe part of the problem is that max has looked at their careers and sees a difference?

        maybe he saw ward try to make a fight with golovkin and golovkin say "no"?

        maybe he saw ward go up to 175 and take on a fellow top 5 p4p guy while he saw one guy wait for a guy to come up in weight?

        maybe he saw golovkin fight two jr mws and a ww in the last 2 years?

        maybe max doesn't hold them to the exact same standards because he sees a difference?

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        • #44
          Originally posted by considerthis View Post
          How did they know that? It seems like some people just wanted ward to have 100% of the advantage. It was ok for Dawson to move all the way down, but ward couldn't meet in the middle? Like I said, forget about all the talk from ggg's camp...since when is meeting in the middle not fair? If Canelo wasn't the mw champion and said let's fight at 157, I'd say that was perfectly fair...but the fact that he was the mw champion and wanted to fight at 155 is what makes it not at all the same as the ggg ward situation.
          Dawson was the one who offered to go to 168. Ward didn't request that.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by krazyn8tive View Post
            This right here is absolutely true
            Not surprising that you would agree with a low IQ post.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Metho_4u View Post
              The guy's a hypocrite, he says Chavez? Ok at 168 yeah, Floyd? Sure 154, Ward? Nope gotta be 164, froch? Nope, gotta be at 166 even though that payday would likely have been close to a canelo fight. I'm just trying to make sense of the hypocrisy here. Ward was too big for 164, so why not say "we're too small for 168"? Being honest would be fine, and respected, but they lied... all there is too it.
              I don't really care what fighters or their teams say anymore...hypocrisy is not really a reason that meeting in the middle isn't fair. unless a fighter is moving to the next division anyway, then why shouldn't both make a concession to get the fight done? why did Floyd face Oscar and cotto at 154, but canelo at 152? obviously he felt different about that fight for whatever reason. just seems like ward wanted everything in his favor...but nobody looks at that as a reason the fight couldn't be made.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                Dawson was the one who offered to go to 168. Ward didn't request that.
                so do you think the fight would have happened otherwise?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                  so do you think the fight would have happened otherwise?
                  I don't know and it doesn't matter. Dawson offered to go to 168. Ward didn't request it. Period.

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                  • #49
                    I like and respect Max. Also, I am a fan of Golovkin... and Charlo, Canelo, and Jacobs. I would not consider myself a fan of Saunders, but not a hater either. I took a quick look (bound to be a mistake in there) and the boxrec rankings at Middle Weight and noted this... you can draw any conclusion you like!

                    Fighter Fights against boxrec rankings
                    Golovkin 1, 3, 9, 11, 12, 20 and 26

                    Canelo 2, 15

                    Jacobs 2, 10

                    Charlo 14

                    Saunders 9, 11, 12

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                    • #50
                      So much hate from fans who support a woman abuser. Strange.

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