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  • #61
    Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
    Dude why would you post this it's not new information, we already broke this down. The guys before you broke this down. What's good with you? We get and understand the money break down.
    lol whats up with you? you are claiming that the winner gets 20 mio pounds and the article isnt saying that.

    If you cant comprehend what you read, thats your problem.

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    • #62
      That was brilliant. Dude we broke it down. Lol broke what down, fluff pulled out of your hole? Guy literally says "your proof doesnt say what you are saying" and you reply with that funny ass ****.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by asgarth View Post
        sry I'm not reading what you are getting out of the article.
        it says the price money for the whole 168 tournament is just under 20 mio pounds, not for the winner alone.

        and sponsorships and tv money are not added to the purse.
        Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
        Follow the tread man, we just found out the winner gets 20 pounds, 27mil. Now that is a healthy check for a bunch of bums!
        Whoops ... I linked to a different article than the one I read before I posted my comment. here's what I based my comment on:

        https://www.givemesport.com/1257185-...money-revealed

        I Didn't include any link to begin with, then I decided to edit my post and drop one in. I guess I must have worded my search differently the second time and a different link showed at the top of the results, which I just copied and posted.

        Sorry, but I was on the booze last night!

        The article I read first clearly says that TV money and sponsorships will be added to the prize money, and the winner will get just under £20million. The article I linked to says something completely different.

        I've just been checking reports on the prize money from different sources. Some say the winner will get 20million and others say the 20million is the total pot for all 16 fighters, so I don't know what to believe now.

        But I do find it difficult to believe that there will be no extra TV income cut payed for fights as big as Groves/Eubank in the UK and Usyk/Gassiev in Europe and Russia.
        Last edited by kafkod; 05-10-2018, 07:23 AM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by kafkod View Post
          Whoops ... I linked to a different article than the one I read before I posted my comment, which was this one:

          https://www.givemesport.com/1257185-...money-revealed

          I Didn't include any link to begin with, then I decided to edit my post and drop one in. I guess I must have worded my search differently the second time and a different link showed at the top of the results, which I just copied and posted.

          Sorry, but I was on the booze last night!

          The article I read first clearly says that TV money and sponsorships will be added to the prize money, and the winner will get just under £20million. The article I linked to says something completely different.

          I've just been checking reports on the prize money from different sources. Some say the winner will get 20million and others say the 20million is the total pot for all 16 fighters, so I don't know what to believe now.

          But I do find it difficult to believe that there will be no extra TV income cut payed for fights as big as Groves/Eubank in the UK and Usyk/Gassiev in Europe and Russia.
          lol, alright no problem, but I tend to believe the other source a little bit more, because they have a quote right out of Sauerlands mouth, that there wont be extra income.

          And WBSS promoter Kalle Sauerland has insisted that those figures will not change depending on pay-per-view sales: the prize money is decided in advance and agreed upon in black and white.

          "We have invested a lot of money to try and not be too like boxing," Sauerland said.

          "If you look at Wimbledon, would Roger Federer get a bonus because Swiss TV paid extra? He'd get prize money, like fighters will here."

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          • #65
            Originally posted by asgarth View Post
            lol, alright no problem, but I tend to believe the other source a little bit more, because they have a quote right out of Sauerlands mouth, that there wont be extra income.

            And WBSS promoter Kalle Sauerland has insisted that those figures will not change depending on pay-per-view sales: the prize money is decided in advance and agreed upon in black and white.

            "We have invested a lot of money to try and not be too like boxing," Sauerland said.

            "If you look at Wimbledon, would Roger Federer get a bonus because Swiss TV paid extra? He'd get prize money, like fighters will here."
            Lol, whatever Kalle says, boxing will always be boxing, and it will never be like Wimbledon!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by asgarth View Post
              lol whats up with you? you are claiming that the winner gets 20 mio pounds and the article isnt saying that.

              If you cant comprehend what you read, thats your problem.
              That's the gross total for the whole tournament. I don't care how they split it amongst the boxers. There no way the winner is getting 20 mil , that has to be a cumulative payment amount from start to finish if you win all three fights.
              Last edited by Removed Now; 05-10-2018, 11:33 AM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
                That's the gross total for the whole tournament. I don't care how they split it amongst the boxers. There no way the winner is getting 20 mil , that has to be a cumulative payment amount from start to finish if you win all three fights.
                is there some kind of language barrier?
                are you claiming the winner is winning 20 mio pounds in total now or not?
                according to the first source, the winner is definitely not earning 20 mio in total.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by asgarth View Post
                  is there some kind of language barrier?
                  are you claiming the winner is winning 20 mio pounds in total now or not?
                  according to the first source, the winner is definitely not earning 20 mio in total.
                  I am going to be a man and say I don't know. Let's break this down how much has groves made so far? Then I can take my statement to the point I am trying to make. Can anybody confirm how much groves was paid up to so far?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
                    I am going to be a man and say I don't know. Let's break this down how much has groves made so far? Then I can take my statement to the point I am trying to make. Can anybody confirm how much groves was paid up to so far?
                    Dont want to continue this discussion longer than necessary.

                    Let's look at some sources:

                    https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxi...-WBSS-earnings

                    https://www.boxingnewsandviews.com/2...groves-purses/

                    http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/15/chris-...purse-7315419/

                    https://www.givemesport.com/1257185-...money-revealed

                    The last one is the only one stating that the winner gets just under 20 mio pounds.

                    The other three sources are stating that the overall purse fund for the whole supermiddleweight tournament is short of 20 mio pounds.
                    => Every purse add together from each fighter adds up to short of 20 mio pounds

                    The details:

                    Final has a purse of 6,5 million pounds. Winner gets 4,3 and the loser gets 2,2 million pounds.

                    The semi final have a purse of 3 million pounds for each fight and split down the middle.
                    => The total purse for the semifinals is 6 mio pounds.

                    Quarter finals: So we have 20 - 6.5 - 6 = 7,5

                    7.5 million pounds are left for the quarterfinals. Assume everyone gets the same, it is
                    7.5 / 8 = 0,9375

                    Lets rounds this number up to 1 million for the purpose of easier numbers.

                    The total purse for the winner according to the sources, should be:

                    4,3 + 1.5 + 1 = 7,8 Million pounds => 10,6 million dollars

                    The winner of the WBSS supermiddleweight tournament earns around 10,6 million dollars.

                    Now quick look how the purses compare:

                    Most popular A-side guys on Showtime are earning around 1-2 mio dollars.
                    Lara (1 mio) Vs Hurd (500k)
                    Wilder (2,1 mio) Vs Ortiz (500k)
                    D. Garcia (1,25 mio) Vs Rios (500k)
                    Over at HBO:
                    Rungvisai (250k) Vs Estrada (100k)
                    Golovkin (1 mio) Vs Martirosyan (225k)

                    => Those participating in the WBSS are earning significant more than most guys in boxing and thats why they were able to get 4 champions in the cruiserweight division and are close to get all 4 champions for the bantamweight tournament.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by asgarth View Post
                      Dont want to continue this discussion longer than necessary.

                      Let's look at some sources:

                      https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxi...-WBSS-earnings

                      https://www.boxingnewsandviews.com/2...groves-purses/

                      http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/15/chris-...purse-7315419/

                      https://www.givemesport.com/1257185-...money-revealed

                      The last one is the only one stating that the winner gets just under 20 mio pounds.

                      The other three sources are stating that the overall purse fund for the whole supermiddleweight tournament is short of 20 mio pounds.
                      => Every purse add together from each fighter adds up to short of 20 mio pounds

                      The details:

                      Final has a purse of 6,5 million pounds. Winner gets 4,3 and the loser gets 2,2 million pounds.

                      The semi final have a purse of 3 million pounds for each fight and split down the middle.
                      => The total purse for the semifinals is 6 mio pounds.

                      Quarter finals: So we have 20 - 6.5 - 6 = 7,5

                      7.5 million pounds are left for the quarterfinals. Assume everyone gets the same, it is
                      7.5 / 8 = 0,9375

                      Lets rounds this number up to 1 million for the purpose of easier numbers.

                      The total purse for the winner according to the sources, should be:

                      4,3 + 1.5 + 1 = 7,8 Million pounds => 10,6 million dollars

                      The winner of the WBSS supermiddleweight tournament earns around 10,6 million dollars.

                      Now quick look how the purses compare:

                      Most popular A-side guys on Showtime are earning around 1-2 mio dollars.
                      Lara (1 mio) Vs Hurd (500k)
                      Wilder (2,1 mio) Vs Ortiz (500k)
                      D. Garcia (1,25 mio) Vs Rios (500k)
                      Over at HBO:
                      Rungvisai (250k) Vs Estrada (100k)
                      Golovkin (1 mio) Vs Martirosyan (225k)

                      => Those participating in the WBSS are earning significant more than most guys in boxing and thats why they were able to get 4 champions in the cruiserweight division and are close to get all 4 champions for the bantamweight tournament.
                      " Every purse add together from each fighter adds up to short of 20 mio pounds"

                      Then who started the rumor about 20 million pounds????

                      So maybe there is a language barrier. 10 Million dollars divided by 3 ( three total fights) is $3.3 million dollars per fight. That's good money. However i still believe Groves should not fight un healthy and lose his belt.
                      Last edited by Removed Now; 05-11-2018, 07:22 AM.

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