Roy Jones and the DQ Debate

[Real King Kong]

Ggg got carried away against Lemieux...that probably coulda been a 2 point deduction since Lemieux was ready to continue. There was nothing in the vanes one...he landed the shot just after the knee touched, it happens. Looks a lot worse in slow motion.

Roy on the other hand 2 pieced a guy who was taking a knee...he had to be dq'd since griffin couldn't continue.

[Rockybigblower]

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A lot depends on how the guy being hit reacts I'd imagine. Even if not hurt, they can make it a tough situation for the ref.

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Dirrel is the master of this one. Both times he got the DQ he blatantly stayed down to force the refs hand. I'm not saying he wasn't technically hit late but cause and effect comes into play. If he gets up it's probably a point deduction but he played up the effect. Abraham grazed him and the uzcategui shot was in flow. He could have made it out of the round and carried on but chose the other way out.

[TonyGe]

I don't think there was anything at all in last nights punch.
The Lem one could, probably should, of been point off.
Roy's one.. it's hard to argue against the DQ IMO.

A lot depends on how the guy being hit reacts I'd imagine. Even if not hurt, they can make it a tough situation for the ref.

They definitely should have deducted a point and given Lemieux time to recover. If I recall Griffin refused to continue so there was no choice but to DQ Jones.

[daggum]

you know who would never hit a downed opponent? margarito the gentleman

[johndoefoe]

gigi is a dirty cheater doooee

[Illmatic94]

I hope somebody finds the Vanes punch from the side angle. It shows the knee all the way down. The gif I posted seems like not a big deal. But from the other angle slowed down it looks worse.

Griffin was told by his coach to stay down. Go back and watch it the corner screams at him to throw his ass back on the floor because Griffin was gonna get on his feet. They knew what they were doing Lol.

Lemeiux could've easily done the same to Golovkin because he winded up that hook from a distance and connected on a downed opponent.

Roy simply said if it was him it would've been a DQ. Go read the comments under HBO's highlights of the fight, whole bunch of people calling for HBO to fire Roy.

[boliodogs]

GGG and Jones are both great fighters and neither probably meant to hit a down man. Why is it so important to you to trash GGG for everything at every possible opportunity? I am on here a lot and haven't seen a single post from anyone saying Roy Jones should be fired for what he said about the situation. You insult GGG fans by calling them G stringers for supporting a fighter they like. That's better than you and Robbie Barrett constantly hating on GGG because you don't like him. Who gives a fuc which foul was worse? It's a fight and fighters get geared up and throw combinations. Jones and GGG can beat their respective opponents with ease. They don't need to cheat to win and I believe both fouls were unintentional. You started this thread for the purpose of trashing GGG once again.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I think GGG got lucky with the Lemiuex shot, mainly because Lemieux could have went ahead and acted it out and got a DQ, but he chose not to. Could have been, though. Very close call.

RJJ put the old one-two on Griffin when Griffin was on the knee. Now, Griffin could have continued imo but he milked it and got the W. Both were wrong, but it is what it is.

The Vanes thing was momentum and I really don't consider it that close. It was momentum and yeah, Vanes' knee was on the canvas but I don't see a DQ there. Vanes was done plain and simple from the previous bombs. The last punch didn't cause major damage imo.

As far as Roy being fired, hell no. That's ridiculous. The guy's been a part of the team for like twenty years and earned his status there. It makes no sense to call for him being fired over an opinion. Besides Roy saying all that won't get GGG DQ'd. He's just expressing his opinion.

[boliodogs]

lil g is dirty fighter and a weight bully, put him in the ring with Charlo and
watch the hype end!

Yes please put him in the ring with Charlo. You won't like the way that fight goes at all. GGG is much better than Trout. He hits much harder and takes a punch much better. Charlo has yet to fight a good middleweight. Jacobs is willing, able and available.

[stealthradon]

I hope somebody finds the Vanes punch from the side angle. It shows the knee all the way down. The gif I posted seems like not a big deal. But from the other angle slowed down it looks worse.

Griffin was told by his coach to stay down. Go back and watch it the corner screams at him to throw his ass back on the floor because Griffin was gonna get on his feet. They knew what they were doing Lol.

Lemeiux could've easily done the same to Golovkin because he winded up that hook from a distance and connected on a downed opponent.

Roy simply said if it was him it would've been a DQ. Go read the comments under HBO's highlights of the fight, whole bunch of people calling for HBO to fire Roy.

If the gif from GGG's angle doesn't show it well, how could GGG have seen it? Should he have 360 vision?