Roy Jones and the DQ Debate

[GhostofDempsey]

Whats the excuse for this one?

No excuse, should have been a point deduction.

[TonyGe]

Roy was right to bring it up. However he admitted that it wasn't too serious after seeing the replay. When Gennady hit Lemiex it was a clear foul and he should have been deducted a point or DQ. It was one punch on Lemieux but a DQ would have been fine. Roy landed two punches on Griffin so a DQ was definitely going to happen when Griffin didn't continue either because he couldn't or he didn't want to. I was pissed off that Lemieux got hit when he was in one knee because I was pulling for him. The rule is there to protect the fighters health.

[lopetego]

Whats the excuse for this one?

No excuses. If Roy was DQ'd for Griffin, GGG should have been DQ'd for this one, or gotten a point deduction at least

that been said, there were no grounds for DQ against Vanes

[man down]

No excuses. If Roy was DQ'd for Griffin, GGG should have been DQ'd for this one, or gotten a point deduction at least

that been said, there were no grounds for DQ against Vanes

This. 100% agree

[_Rexy_]

The one on Lemieux looks worse because it's slowed down. In the fight Lemieux is backing up and then suddenly takes a knee. Happens very quickly, but he doesn't hit him hard...like he kind of started pulling back at the last moment. You can tell it doesn't hit hard because Lemieux just looks up at him and says "what the ****?" and G apologizes. Should have been a point at most.

Roy on the other hand threw a ****ing combo.

[Chrismart]

I don't think there was anything at all in last nights punch.
The Lem one could, probably should, of been point off.
Roy's one.. it's hard to argue against the DQ IMO.

A lot depends on how the guy being hit reacts I'd imagine. Even if not hurt, they can make it a tough situation for the ref.

[lopetego]

The one on Lemieux looks worse because it's slowed down. In the fight Lemieux is backing up and then suddenly takes a knee. Happens very quickly, but he doesn't hit him hard...like he kind of started pulling back at the last moment. You can tell it doesn't hit hard because Lemieux just looks up at him and says "what the ****?" and G apologizes. Should have been a point at most.

Roy on the other hand threw a ****ing combo.

GGG also threw a combo, only the first punch didn't land

He knew what he was doing

Lemieux could have gotten GGG DQ'd right there, if he had some victim acting skills

[Rockybigblower]

Agree with this.


I didn't hear Roy's comment. Was he really pushing hard for a DQ or just mentioned that it could have been grounds for a DQ?

No...he wasn't. He was just being sarcastic saying how if it was him it would have been called a DQ. When max said he didn't believe it was DQ worthy Jones agreed...but still maintained if it was him that it would have been called.

[Dosumpthin]

Roy is the man but in all fairness he was probably on PEDS. No sympathy here.

[daggum]

i think we also have to factor in when each fight took place. roy's was in the 90's and boxing while always being corrupt was nowhere near as bad as it is today. there was still the appearance of fairness, but they got rid of that since they realized there were no drawbacks to open corruption besides some fanboys or commentators yelling.

those fanboys have no power though and no real effect on their ability to generate money. whats important is do we still have a bunch of people who will give us money. if so we will make sure they guy we want wins.

if roy did that today i would say he prob gets a ko win. if you can low blow a guy over and over and its a ko so i dont see why the ref wouldn't just overlook what roy did. then you would have people on here saying griffin was faking, griffin quit, jones was going to win anyway. boxing and everything in life has become so polarized that you can get away with anything now cause you will always have a loyal side and you just play to that.