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  • #31
    Originally posted by T.M.T View Post
    when this fight is over Horn's face will be a mess. he has no head movement and Crawford is a very sharp puncher.
    This. Nothing to add.

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    • #32
      Coward Crawford will earn a lot if he goes down under but Jeff Horny will use his head (butting) to win even with bloody face of a loser. War or run in Vegas Amigos! 😂

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      • #33
        Originally posted by qwickm3 View Post
        Jeff Horn is tough and will not rollover.
        You can't roll over when you get knocked out cold.

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        • #34
          Crawford is going to gut Horn like a fish.

          Horn is going to get baked like an Easter ham.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by abracada View Post
            F it... put him infront of Broner and he would get whooped
            Jeff 'The Hornet' Horn decisions Adrien Broner over 12, while people on NSB scream at him to throw more punches.


            Anyway, if The Hornet pulls it off - even if he manages to take Crawford past 10 - I'm going to come on here and I'm going to laugh at all the people underestimating him.

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            • #36
              Not at all thinking Horn can win this. Really see two different level of boxers - one is a straight forward, walk them down limited fighter that does have a ton of heart but has shown only moderate skills and very limited punching angles. The other is a polished, skilled, focused, patient sharp-shooter with head movement and fast feet. Horn "may" have a slight power edge as Crawford is coming up in weight again and Horn is a natural at 147, but power only matters if you hit clean.

              I got Crawford by a late round stoppage after a commanding performance against a game, fearless but seriously outskilled Horn, with a possible dominate UD if Horn is truly game and tougher than I give him credit for.

              Seems like it has been FOREVER waiting on this fight.
              Last edited by landotter; 05-03-2018, 07:51 PM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by landotter View Post
                Not at all thinking Horn can win this. Really see two different level of boxers - one is a straight forward, walk them down limited fighter that does have a ton of heart but has shown only moderate skills and very limited punching angles. The other is a polished, skilled, focused, patient sharp-shooter with head movement and fast feet. Horn "may" have a slight power edge as Crawford is coming up in weight again and Horn is a natural at 147, but power only matters if you hit clean.

                I got Crawford by a late round stoppage after a commanding performance against a game, fearless but seriously outskilled Horn, with a possible dominate UD if Horn is truly game and tougher than I give him credit for.

                Seems like it has been FOREVER waiting on this fight.
                I can see it playing out pretty much like you say.

                I can also see it playing out like this: Crawford is just too good, starts breaking down Horn from round 1 and has him out around round 4.

                We know how good Crawford is. The only real measuring stick we have for how good Horn is is his fight with Manny. We don't know just how bad Manny was in that fight, although we know he wasn't anywhere near his prime.

                I'm thinking Manny was worse than people realised. Which means Horn didn't have to be all that good to win. Which means Crawford starts breaking down Horn from round 1 and has him out around round 4.

                I hope that Horn does better than that though. I like him, and it would be good to see him prove some haters wrong.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Lomasexual View Post
                  I can see it playing out pretty much like you say.

                  I can also see it playing out like this: Crawford is just too good, starts breaking down Horn from round 1 and has him out around round 4.

                  We know how good Crawford is. The only real measuring stick we have for how good Horn is is his fight with Manny. We don't know just how bad Manny was in that fight, although we know he wasn't anywhere near his prime.

                  I'm thinking Manny was worse than people realised. Which means Horn didn't have to be all that good to win. Which means Crawford starts breaking down Horn from round 1 and has him out around round 4.

                  I hope that Horn does better than that though. I like him, and it would be good to see him prove some haters wrong.
                  We have three measuring sticks for the Hornet: Ali Funeka, Randall Bailey, and Manny.

                  Of those, Funeka and Bailey both put Horn down for an eight count, only to get knocked out later. Manny failed to drop him officially.

                  Funeka warned Manny he was going to lose, and that happened.

                  Stylistically, Funeka is the closer to Crawford. If Crawford doesn't pressure Horn or "run", he has a good chance to get fouled or dropped by the Hornet.
                  Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 05-04-2018, 09:27 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by revelated View Post
                    We have three measuring sticks for the Hornet: Ali Funeka, Randall Bailey, and Manny.

                    Of those, Funeka and Bailey both put Horn down for an eight count, only to get knocked out later. Manny failed to drop him officially.

                    Funeka warned Manny he was going to lose, and that happened.

                    Stylistically, Funeka is the closer to Crawford. If Crawford doesn't pressure Horn or "run", he has a good chance to get fouled or dropped by the Hornet.
                    Perhaps I have dismissed the relevance of Funeka and Bailey too easily.
                    All I can really remember is that Funeka was low top ten in the WBO at the time of the fight.

                    I'm only able to go on Boxrec for those guys, and having looked at their records, they only have fought half a dozen names I even recognise, and have lost each of those fights.

                    Are they gatekeeper types, or journeyman types? I'm wondering how to work out how relevant they are when comparing to top level fights.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Lomasexual View Post
                      Perhaps I have dismissed the relevance of Funeka and Bailey too easily.
                      All I can really remember is that Funeka was low top ten in the WBO at the time of the fight.

                      I'm only able to go on Boxrec for those guys, and having looked at their records, they only have fought half a dozen names I even recognise, and have lost each of those fights.

                      Are they gatekeeper types, or journeyman types? I'm wondering how to work out how relevant they are when comparing to top level fights.
                      Randall Bailey was a knockout artist with Charlo-esque precision. Solid, quality B-level fighter with dangerous power. That's the comparison.

                      Ali Funeka was a solid fighter with a good KO ratio. He was "The Indongo of his era" in that he had a light resume. His signature win was basically about who his opponent beat.

                      He was the only one to ever KO Zahir Raheem.

                      Zahir Raheem was 3 years out from outboxing a prime Erik Morales later in the same year that Morales dominated a prime Manny Pacquiao. Raheem that time was one of only three to beat Morales, Barrera 1 and Pacquiao 2 being the other two. It was a big deal at the time.

                      Funeka's win over Raheem was a big asterisk because he caught Raheem with a Khan-esque KO shot right at the bell and the ref blew the call. Blew it in the sense that he didn't count the eight, then just waved it. Right outcome, poorly done.
                      Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 05-05-2018, 06:03 AM.

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