A point on Canelo hair testing: what's your opinion?

[Lester Tutor]

Couple points every expert I have seen including Victor Conte and even WADA states a hair test is more accurate to determine intent to cheat instead of meat contamination. Also the reason urine test is used today and not hair test has little to do with it not being accurate enough and more to do with urine test being cheaper. And idiots who keep saying well the bad hair is gone after 3 weeks no it isn't. 1) It's in the hair follicles your body produces for 6 months. Meaning it's in hair that HASN'T even popped out of your body yet at the time you were on PEDs. 2) If you used chemicals to try and scrub it those chemicals would leave traces and WADA would know about it. 3) Your hair contains your DNA so you can't just swap it with someone else 4) Canelo has long hair here it is the fight press conference



And here is him after the knee surgery after the hair test still with long hair. So stop the nonsense that Canelo has short hair and 1 hair cut would remove all his "bad" hair lol




5) Even if he shaved his head completely they would just take the hair from somewhere else in his body

Basically.

Another alternative would be to get a hair follicle from Lil’Gs ass, but WADA would conclude that he is full of ****. We already knew this and an ass hair just proves it more from Big Bear

[bigdunny1]

BEFORE the test everyone screaming well if Canelo were a innocent man he would just agree to a hair test. A test that according to Nevada no other combat athlete has done. A test that you all swore he wouldn't take because he's guilty and a hair test would reveal all kinds of OTHER PEDS canelo was on. You also quoted and swore nobody knows more about drug testing then expert Victor Conte.

NOW that Canelo gave the hair test and it's negative supporting what he said from day 1 which is that he isn't a cheater and ate contaminated meat. Now taking the test doesn't mean he is innocent and you don't trust the results anyway. And oh yeah that Victor Conte guys who knows used to know this shyt like the back of his hand doesn't know shyt about hair tests. Some major flip flopping up in here LMAO

[Redd Foxx]

Second point , as a boxing fan, I'm reaching schizophrenia with that story.

I feel like there is something fishy and cheating in boxing is just so bad.

But at the same time, Canelo is just one of the most fun fighter to watch and the best record, bigger star in boxing, so you don't really want him getting ruined.
At least it doesn't help the sport, that's just a bad look for boxing.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Canelo wouldn't or hasn't cheated. I just don't think he cheated with clen so close to the testing stages. It makes little sense, yet there's an epidemic with steroids used in Mexican livestock, that makes a lot of sense.

A lot of people are either defending our vilifying him based on whether they like him or not. I'm neither here nor there with Canelo. I'm just basing my opinion on whether I think he took clen then and it doesn't seem he did. If he was popped for say, equipoise in December, I would not be the least bit surprised.

[WesternChamp]

I think that Canelo and team slipped up and got caught but now everything is else is under control. Many people now think that Canelo is clean over this BS hair test, i'm personally not buying it.

the one believing that canelo is clean is his own fans looking for a way to justify that canelo is clean. now they got it with this fake hair test. nobody else believes it.

same for floyd's IV use. his fans know something is fishy about it but wont admit to it and since USADA came out and said floyd got approve to use it then ran with that.

but had it been any other fighter getting popped with 2 dirty test or an IV use and all hell breaks loose.

[stealthradon]

You dumbass, you do know hair testing goes as far back as 6 MONTHS. But fuck right?

Because you inbred, cousin fucking trailer trash, pussies wanted hair testing and now that's it's negative, you inbreds are claiming it's not legit. Go plan your next mass shooting wonderbread.

If you can wait 3 weeks, how can it be legit?

Also stop being a racist.

[Citizen Koba]

Yes, I can. Because it alterations such as bleaching, dyes, chemical strippers, all leave traces (aka, "artifacts"). Testing after a day or a month makes little difference in this regard. I worked in a rehab facility for 5 years and know a bit about testing. I
So, kindly STFU.

Nice work, man. I thought I'd seen you mention something like that in the past. I've a slightly longer experience of rehab services myself, but erm.. from the other side, so to speak.

[Redd Foxx]

Whattup Redd, the pimp is back!

The Lil’G fans still don’t realize that “tampering” with evidence would be to Lil’Gs defense t continue theorizing that he “cheated.” As if WADA would casually leave out info that human hair was blasted away with chemicals consistent with bleach. As if employers that were to test for marijuana would even have the same protocol molecular testing as WADA labs. Employers at a Walmart could care less if bleaching were a tampering. Not that Walmart would even do hair testing as many of their employees are on crack anyways.

Lil’G fans mang

So many people are in love with the feeling of being able to say, "they caught you!" that they can't let that go, no matter what evidence you present them. I remember arguing with kfod once about Kovalev being dropped and he said it simply did not happen. I showed him an article written by a columnist the night he witnessed it in the arena. Kfod still refused to acknowledge it. That's when I first realized how people here write their own reality, based on what makes them feel good. I think most now realize Canelo probably didn't do clen. But, some will never let that feeling go. They love it too much. You can't take that candy away.

[bigdunny1]

VADA were the consultants and controllers for the testing. They are the ones that initiate for who and where the hair follicles go to, and chose the WADA lab affiliated. They then provide the information to the commission. How is the last option that the commission can’t be trusted if they are being provided the information? Lol

Lil’G fans still naive that’s Canelo was setup by the WBC and VADA to help Loeffler dip out of a fight and tarnish Canelo’s name per Suleyman’s 2 year belt refusal. And he pretended to headline in favor of Canelo to gain that team’s trust yet they WBC and VADA were all joint. If Süleyman, regardless of Goodman always quiet yet she’s the CEO of VADA and was vocal about Vargas, you’d think Suleyman would’ve defended Canelo before any of the March 3 or 5th results were announced.

Truth is Süleyman knew Canelo would refuse the WBC again and so he decided to make sure his 160 belts would gain profit on any alternative GGG opponent.

Karma prevails.

All of industry quiet now. Even Pugmire cowering away with conte’s opinions on hair testing.

All this charade to protect Golovkin. Seems like industry has more of a grudge against Oscar than Canelo and many to fanboy and empathize for Loeffler, regardless if Bhop and Oscar were actual fighters.

The real irony is this shows just how bias some of the media were during this entire process. Killing Canelo and driving a narrative propping up Victor Conte who ****** the drum that Canelo had to do the hair test to prove his innocence. No bigger fraud then Lance Pugmire who was leaking info from day 1 on a hourly basis because his insider was Loeffler. Condemning Canelo at every turn and quoting Victor Conte. Since the hair test news broke this clown is now very quite and ignoring Victor Conte's 20+ tweets shooting holes at fanboys trying to discredit the hair test and all but stating Canelo is a innocent man. Steve Kim is another GGG fanboy who is very quite these days lol

[bigdunny1]

So many people are in love with the feeling of being able to say, "they caught you!" that they can't let that go, no matter what evidence you present them. I remember arguing with kfod once about Kovalev being dropped and he said it simply did not happen. I showed him an article written by a columnist the night he witnessed it in the arena. Kfod still refused to acknowledge it. That's when I first realized how people here write their own reality, based on what makes them feel good. I think most now realize Canelo probably didn't do clen. But, some will never let that feeling go. They love it too much. You can't take that candy away.

Beware those who spew vitriol for the attention but who have never been reporters. The smart play was to wait it out. The guys convinced he was a juicer look like fools right about now. But they will be too prideful to admit it. #boxing https://t.co/HI0JKuBlDW

— Gabriel Montoya™ (@Gabriel_Montoya) April 27, 2018

You can literally go back weeks and find posts from most of these guys saying hair tests are more accurate to prove if he was cheating or meat if Canelo was really innocent he will take this test. He does and the results don't support their cheater argument so they are all now moving the goal post and discrediting the test and the expert they used to say knew more about drug testing then anyone. This is agenda based at this point and not about what actually happened.

[Lester Tutor]

So many people are in love with the feeling of being able to say, "they caught you!" that they can't let that go, no matter what evidence you present them. I remember arguing with kfod once about Kovalev being dropped and he said it simply did not happen. I showed him an article written by a columnist the night he witnessed it in the arena. Kfod still refused to acknowledge it. That's when I first realized how people here write their own reality, based on what makes them feel good. I think most now realize Canelo probably didn't do clen. But, some will never let that feeling go. They love it too much. You can't take that candy away.

I gave you a shout out on one my videos here.

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