Comments Thread For: WBC Prez: Justice is Served, I Knew From Day 1 - Canelo is Clean!

[kafkod]

Why did Canelo withdraw from VADA to get this follicle test done?

Canelo is a cheat.

[-Kev-]

We did it, we won, we're clean. Free Canelo.

Against all odds, Canelovelli, the 6 month theory.

We coming for you GGG.

[Eff Pandas]

so explain this: why did the clenbuterol not show up in his hair test - but did pop up twice (in what is considered the more accurate) urine test?

My understanding is cuz it was only a trace amount as one would find with eating it vs a larger amount one would need to use it as a PED.

Thing is I've heard the hair test is far less definite with this sorta sh^t then people wanna believe any damn way. And specifically for cats with ginger hair it seems like that can impact the results too. So who's to say this hair test is relevant enough for ginger mfers? I'd be curious how many cats with ginger or other light hair colors have been shown with PED usage amounts of this substance in their system while also it showing up in their hair sample.

To me this is still up in the air & always has been since I've heard the initial details. And as with most if not all these Mexican meat situations there is always going to be plausible deniability along with a certain level of a cover if you are doing PED sh^t that makes this PED concern such a sneaky one to say x for sure happened or y for sure haappened in comparison to other PED sh^t.

[Travycat]

I thought boxers and promoters said WADA was the easy to beat test and VADA is the one cheats don’t want? Why isn’t this VADA year round? Why did he withdraw from VADA? Why wasn’t the hair follicle test done immediately and not 3 months later, and who did it? None of this makes sense. I’m trying to understand all of the politics here.

[Illmatic94]

Guilty or not it is not this guy's job to be Canelo's cheerleader and deep throat him every chance he gets. I mean at least try to appear impartial. Fckn groupie. Where was all this deep throating for Cuadras?

[Citizen Koba]

Suleiman is a piece of ****. He and Margaret Goodman exploited Meat Contamination revolving VADA branding. Even Conte from the start said Canelo was clean...

I think Canelo was setup to make a paradigm shift for the first combat athlete to do hair testing. Out to do what’s right, it seemed all planned. Goodman has said nothing about the conclusive report on the hair testing as it’s not even in her knowledge as WADA technicians do the testing. Even Eichner from SMRTL hasn’t said anything about the hair testing even through he originally said it was meat contamination anyways

It's quite something to have you back Turkish. Place has been a little less weird without ya. Or maybe you been here with one of your multitude of alts and I just ain't noticed. I'm assuming you're off whatever ban you were on though to be using Lester?

Ummm. So - can you provide some enlightening evidence as to what this 'conclusive report on hair testing ' is? WADA themselves say they can't actually prove anything with hair testing and that discriminatory testing has not yet been researched enough to be reliable, so....?

[Scary_canary]

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT IS IN YOUR SYSTEM.... it can’t get any more simple than that

[Lester Tutor]

It's quite something to have you back Turkish. Place has been a little less weird without ya. Or maybe you been here with one of your multitude of alts and I just ain't noticed. I'm assuming you're off whatever ban you were on though to be using Lester?

Ummm. So - can you provide some enlightening evidence as to what this 'conclusive report on hair testing ' is? WADA themselves say they can't actually prove anything with hair testing and that discriminatory testing has not yet been researched enough to be reliable, so....?

I had about 4 new accounts trying to pick at the girlie crew that booted me off cause the dork had the same screen name here as some dating site. As cheesy as it was, it must have been awkward for his mates to defend that. My ban was to be lifted in May anyways.

Since then my YouTube channel has been the don to flex Pugmire and Rafael. My channel was the first to flex on Clenbuterol and it’s decay. I gained 2000 subs since. One of my videos had Chavez flexing Abel’s Sanchez with 500k views.

Karma prevails my brothers. We all know Suleyman setup Canelo because he refused the WBC, and to Mexican Boxing that is blasphemous.

Testing Canelo 4 days apart for Clenbuterol is like telling an officer to do another breathalyzer test 10 hours later with a high rating. To prove what? Alcohol intoxication?

The WBC and VADA were geniuses to test Canelo 4 days apart knowing TRACE decay would be found as “adverse.” Goodman has said nothing on anything yet she’s the CEO. Lol. These HBO affiliated goons are all suspect.

Lil’G is old news man. Charlo and Andrade are the new threats. That’s where my boy canelo gotta see them. Plenty of hard fights for canelo. Lil’G already got boxed in 2017. Nothing new. And Lil’G doesn’t deserve a Canelo rematch. He should retire fighting Vanes 2

[Citizen Koba]

My understanding is cuz it was only a trace amount as one would find with eating it vs a larger amount one would need to use it as a PED.

Thing is I've heard the hair test is far less definite with this sorta sh^t then people wanna believe any damn way. And specifically for cats with ginger hair it seems like that can impact the results too. So who's to say this hair test is relevant enough for ginger mfers? I'd be curious how many cats with ginger or other light hair colors have been shown with PED usage amounts of this substance in their system while also it showing up in their hair sample.

To me this is still up in the air & always has been since I've heard the initial details. And as with most if not all these Mexican meat situations there is always going to be plausible deniability along with a certain level of a cover if you are doing PED sh^t that makes this PED concern such a sneaky one to say x for sure happened or y for sure haappened in comparison to other PED sh^t.

That's really a pretty good summary of where we're at. I've done a bit of digging around and posted what I've found on other threads so I ain't gonna go over it again, but yeah, essentially the hair testing simply ain't been studied enough to know what results would be expected in these circumstances one way or another...
In short it tells us nothing new. They ain't even sure exactly what discriminatory margins to look for in dark hair yet, and light/red hair types have barely been studied at all... anyway if anyone wants to know more about it I can discuss in more detail.

It's tempting to assume Canelo's guilt just because of the skin crawling displays of really bad damage limitation by Suliaman (and to a lesser extent by Oscar) but actually that doesn't tell us anything either. They would probably have been acting a similar way whether they knew he was guilty or not.

Yes. Basically it's still up in the air. Personally I think the whole think is dodgy as hell, but I ain't gonna say you should just punish a guy based upon your assumption of his intent. As far as I'm concerned NSAC acted appropriately using the limitations of the information they had available, though I'd hope to see a stiffer penalty should there be any recurrence.

[Lester Tutor]

That's really a pretty good summary of where we're at. I've done a bit of digging around and posted what I've found on other threads so I ain't gonna go over it again, but yeah, essentially the hair testing simply ain't been studied enough to know what results would be expected in these circumstances one way or another...
In short it tells us nothing new. They ain't even sure exactly what discriminatory margins to look for in dark hair yet, and light/red hair types have barely been studied at all... anyway if anyone wants to know more about it I can discuss in more detail.

It's tempting to assume Canelo's guilt just because of the skin crawling displays of really bad damage limitation by Suliaman (and to a lesser extent by Oscar) but actually that doesn't tell us anything either. They would probably have been acting a similar way whether they knew he was guilty or not.

Yes. Basically it's still up in the air. Personally I think the whole think is dodgy as hell, but I ain't gonna say you should just punish a guy based upon your assumption of his intent. As far as I'm concerned NSAC acted appropriately using the limitations of the information they had available, though I'd hope to see a stiffer penalty should there be any recurrence.

Don’t buy into any of that. Conte and Goodman themselves and a VADA Conference online all advocates hair testing. These are the people Lil’G fans relied on to begin with. Then when they don’t get the news they want to hear, they feel that their opinions about Canelo being a cheat were punked all along, and they cower away. All the Pacboys cheering for Paulie yelling Canelo a cheat then a week later with more video interviews Paulie calls Pac the King of Cheats...

It’s never ending with Pacboy and Lil’G fans.