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Originally posted by K-DOGG
Forgive me for copying my post from another thread; but I feel real strongly about this:
Winky Wright won that fight, end of story.
I had it 117-112 or in rounds, 8-3-1; yes, one or two rounds early on could have gone either way, but not enough to make a difference. Taylor was very active in the beginning, as he was with Hopkins; but landed only about 1 in 7 punches, due to Winky's high guard and excellent defence. Boxing is supposed to be scored on "effective" aggressiveness...not just aggressiveness. If you throw a lot of punches, that's great; but if you don't land any, it's as effective as pushing agaainst a wall: you expend a lot of energy; but get no work done.
True, Jermain was strong enough that on several occasions Winky's whole body would move from the foce of the blow that landed on his glove; but, in the end, Jermain didn't do enough to win or even earn a draw, IMO.
Winky began pressureing Taylor into corners as early as round 2, where Jermain was looking to counter or time him with a right hand coming in; but while Jermain was looking for the opening, Winky was tattooing his left eye with that right jab and was landing it as evidenced by the fact that Taylor's left eye was swollen completely shut by the end of the match....and don't give me that head-butt B.S. In addition, in the 8th...I believe it was the 8th...Winky had Taylor in serious trouble and if he had applied more pressure, could have dropped and potentially stopped Taylor.
Winky completely dominated the fight with the exception of a couple of rounds here and there...particularly the first four, where it was nip and tuck. However, even in those first four, Winky was blocking most of Taylor's shots where Jermain seemed to be under the impression that if he blocked a shot, he would hurt Winky's feelings.
You can't win a fight laying in the corners and taking a beating for 2/3's of the round and rallying occassionally to the cheers of your hometown fans....that's not boxing.
Winky landed 226 punches to 163 for Taylor/ 103 jabs to Taylor's 41, dictated the pace, and showed more effective aggression and ring generalship. Taylor fought not to lose while Winky fought to win.
Wright got screwed.....
If Wright had won the fight (officially), there was a rematch clause in the contract. In the post fight press conference (I was there) it was obvious that Jermain did not really feel he won the fight; he was very apologetic and did not have the body language of a man who had just successfully defended his belt as much as a man who received an early Christmas present and was humbled by it. Jermain's a good kid and a gutsy fighter; but the expressions of his manager and Steward of not wanting to "deal with this fellow"...aka Winky...any more, told me that they don't believe they could ever convincingly defeat Wright.
Given the controversy of the decision, Winky Wright deserves a rematch. Jermain didn't "cry" about wanting a rematch because he knows how lucky he was to get a draw.
On a side note, I don't blame Winky for leaving the ring and not going to the post fight presser. This decision was as bad as Chavez-Whitaker and Lewis-Holyfield I. If I got ****d on National television, I'd want to get the hell out of Dodge as well.
Winky got screwed.
Winky Wright won that fight, end of story.
I had it 117-112 or in rounds, 8-3-1; yes, one or two rounds early on could have gone either way, but not enough to make a difference. Taylor was very active in the beginning, as he was with Hopkins; but landed only about 1 in 7 punches, due to Winky's high guard and excellent defence. Boxing is supposed to be scored on "effective" aggressiveness...not just aggressiveness. If you throw a lot of punches, that's great; but if you don't land any, it's as effective as pushing agaainst a wall: you expend a lot of energy; but get no work done.
True, Jermain was strong enough that on several occasions Winky's whole body would move from the foce of the blow that landed on his glove; but, in the end, Jermain didn't do enough to win or even earn a draw, IMO.
Winky began pressureing Taylor into corners as early as round 2, where Jermain was looking to counter or time him with a right hand coming in; but while Jermain was looking for the opening, Winky was tattooing his left eye with that right jab and was landing it as evidenced by the fact that Taylor's left eye was swollen completely shut by the end of the match....and don't give me that head-butt B.S. In addition, in the 8th...I believe it was the 8th...Winky had Taylor in serious trouble and if he had applied more pressure, could have dropped and potentially stopped Taylor.
Winky completely dominated the fight with the exception of a couple of rounds here and there...particularly the first four, where it was nip and tuck. However, even in those first four, Winky was blocking most of Taylor's shots where Jermain seemed to be under the impression that if he blocked a shot, he would hurt Winky's feelings.
You can't win a fight laying in the corners and taking a beating for 2/3's of the round and rallying occassionally to the cheers of your hometown fans....that's not boxing.
Winky landed 226 punches to 163 for Taylor/ 103 jabs to Taylor's 41, dictated the pace, and showed more effective aggression and ring generalship. Taylor fought not to lose while Winky fought to win.
Wright got screwed.....
If Wright had won the fight (officially), there was a rematch clause in the contract. In the post fight press conference (I was there) it was obvious that Jermain did not really feel he won the fight; he was very apologetic and did not have the body language of a man who had just successfully defended his belt as much as a man who received an early Christmas present and was humbled by it. Jermain's a good kid and a gutsy fighter; but the expressions of his manager and Steward of not wanting to "deal with this fellow"...aka Winky...any more, told me that they don't believe they could ever convincingly defeat Wright.
Given the controversy of the decision, Winky Wright deserves a rematch. Jermain didn't "cry" about wanting a rematch because he knows how lucky he was to get a draw.
On a side note, I don't blame Winky for leaving the ring and not going to the post fight presser. This decision was as bad as Chavez-Whitaker and Lewis-Holyfield I. If I got ****d on National television, I'd want to get the hell out of Dodge as well.
Winky got screwed.
Terrible scoring from you, K-Dogg, and your usually on point.
Strange...
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